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Frelle
Hi everyone!

I have a 9 year old daughter. She was diagnosed with Sensory Processing Disorder, Sensory Modulation Dysfunction, Auditory Processing Disorder, and Developmental Dyspraxia this past fall. Can someone explain to me if these diagnoses put her on the spectrum, or if she might just have these features but not be on the spectrum?

Here is a link to her evaluation at the OT this fall:
http://bugeval08.angelfire.com/

Other than these diagnoses, we have noted some other things that we are concerned about, that make us wonder about a spectrum diagnosis. Some of this has just started to come to light recently. I guess a large part of it is her sensory modulation dysfunction, where she tends to react so often in infantile and toddler ways rather than anything close to age appropriate.

A. Self absorption and lack of ability to see things from another perspective. Everything is about her, and every time something does not go the way she wants, it's because we don't want her to be happy. I have other children younger than her who do not react in this way, or feel personally thwarted or overlooked or have a victim mentality about situations like this.

B. If I do X it will please Papa and I will get Y out of it. Her need to please others is for her own benefit, not because she wants to please them. Similarly, if her friend, sister, or parent is unhappy, it would not occur to her to try to cheer them up. Comforting someone who is hurt doesn't occur to her, but getting someone to help the hurt person does occur to her.

C. I recall her being 5, and her sister being 2, and us being in the car. I was overwhelmed at having been out with them at Home Depot and very pregnant. My 2 yr old told me I should have some juice when I get home because that always makes her feel better. My older daughter asked why I was "crying like a baby".

D. Self care tasks do not occur to her. She will wear the same pants for a week. She has one pair that she will wear. She needs to be reminded to brush her hair and look decent if we are going out of the house, and doesn't understand why that is necessary. My 6 yr old seems more average and aware about how we need to not look like an unmade bed when we leave the house.

E. When she hurts her siblings with her words or with her body, and we ask her how she thinks that made her sister feel, she answers broadly with words like sad or mad. When we ask her why her sister would feel that way, she clearly has no clue. She does not understand things from other people's perspectives at all in this way.

F. Her sensory issues, esp regarding clothes, have gotten much worse over the last year. Exponentially worse. SHe used to wear many different fabrics and styles of clothing. Maybe they were all pink and purple. But she was not always confined to track suits and leggings and yoga pants. She used to wear dresses almost every day, she liked tights, she had several different pairs of jeans and shorts. But now she wears 2 different track suits and 1 pair of jeans and 1 pair of leggings with different shirts, and does not say that the other clothes she has present sensory issues. She just doesnt like them. She used to have several different kinds of shoes. She has worn only crocs for a year. Before that, she wore only boots. She used to wear dresses and tights with dress shoes to church, and hasnt done that for over a year.

G. Her trouble with transitions was not even evident until she was about 5 or 6. She just didnt seem to have issues with transitions. They are also much worse now. They are especially bad in the last 6 months.

H. An example of an issue of rigid thinking would be if she asked us if she could have a corn dog for lunch at 10:30, and we said yes. She might go about her business, and at lunchtime, we discover that while she is allowed to have a corn dog, we dont have any. This causes her great distress. To the point where she thinks she will have to go hungry, staring at the space where the corn dogs usually are. She might even have to put her hands on her head and work really hard to think about how she can change the plan she had made without melting down. This is probably over the last year that I have noticed her having issues with this.

She started puberty in April of last year, showing secondary characteristics and gaining about 15-20 pounds of the course of the last year. My mother in law was the same way.


Socially:
She approaches other children she doesn't know and stars conversations. She plays well with other kids. She is good at cooperative play and is imaginative, if a little controlling. She does not appear to be misunderstood or an outcast among her peers, I would say her social skills in general are at least average. BUT.. she hasnt really had to "read people" yet.

My husband always had and still has great difficulty with that. Rob very likely would have had a diagnosis of Aspergers as a child, and still has some attributes that make me aware of that. He has the same auditory processing issues as Grace and many of her same sensory issues.

Grace also has issues with anxiety that have worsened over the last few years, whereas her father had issues with OCD. Grace is able to psychosomatically induce vomiting if she feels gassy or like she has eaten too much. Thunderstorms make her run for the bathroom as well, esp if they are in the middle of the night.

She was in OT and PT in 06/07, took a year off in 07/08, and resumed with OT and began Sensory Therapy in September of 08.

Comments? Ideas? I am reading a book on HFA and Aspergers right now, and googling to come up with some lists and inventories.

I appreciate any input you have. We are just trying to understand her and give her helpful parameters and structure. We've been reading about sensory issues and explosive children, and anxiety issues in children in the last few years.

She does not currently have a sensory diet given to us by her OT, but I think that will help a LOT. She is transitioning to a public school after being homeschooled, and they will be avaulating her and doing an IEP evaluation. We've never had an IEP done because of being homeschooled, so it is likely to bring to light some learning disabilities and differences that we didnt even know she had.
pooky40962
My Daughter Destiny is 5, She has sensory issues she is alot better now that we had her in OT and Speech theraphy! she also gets therapies at school! she was diagnoised with PDD-NOS(Pervasive Development Disorder- Not Other wise specified) She would only wear certain clothes for along time! then we would try to wing her into different things!! some Children I know have there favs and you just have to keep washing and rotating! I have a friend who's daughter has a favorite jacket its pink with writing on it she wears it every single day and has to have it every single day! If it gets dirty she will let her mother wash it but then its right back on her asap!!!!!!! Alot of Children with Autism or on the spectrum have OCD issues or They like to be in a scheduled matter.. Also we had to buy the same pair of shoes for 3 years in a roll for my daughter they had to be same color and same dora brown and pink shoes! then this year they stopped selling those and we had to find another pair THANK GOD they still had some that were brown and pink with dora! she agreed to these!!! after a long fit!

Destiny is very blunt with her answers and her behavior toward ppl! she just tells the truth is how I describe it. Its very rude at times and I get very upset with her but I have to yet understand shes just her! and I guess all our lives we hear ppl say its not nice to lie well!!!!!!!!!!! Destiny does not lol!! Example. She told my brothers friend who was over weight that he was to fat for a chair outside one day and I was mortified!!! I felt horrible! She will tell you if you stink, if your ugly, if your over weight but she says fat!!!! which I have tried to explain to her she just dont listen! She also has some issues with picking her nose and eating it, I told her one day DESTINY! stop that, thats GROSS!! she no it isnt it taste good! so she has some major issues with just being straight forward.

Sensory issues with Destiny are kinda different now that shes older. She has more of a if it has a smell to it she wont touch it she wont get near it and she wants it out of her sense of smell quick!!!!! She doesnt like things like hotdogs, bologna, mustard and etc. She changes clothes 50 eleven times a day! but its not because of the feel of them its because there dirty or she will pee in them just so she can change!

I know where you are coming from but at the same time I dont! If you need to talk to someone just let me know!!!
WWW.MYSPACE.COM/POOKY409621 this is my myspace site where I just have my family and ALOT of friends with children and family members that are on the spectrum!!!!! I also dont care at all to chat with you here!
XOXO
Pooh
picklesmama
While it is common for many kids under the ASD umbrella to also have some or all of the disorders Grace has, not all do, nor does having the disorders themselves mean the child has an ASD - but based on your description of Grace, and your other post, I can see why you would wonder. Have you asked her doctor specifically for an ASD evaluation? Did the Occupational Therapist not say anything about the possibility? Just from what I read, it does sound to me like she is on the spectrum, but of course I'm not a professional nor I have I spent time with her so my opinion doesn't count for much.
3girls1boy
I agree with the ladies here and on the other board that you should have her eval. for ASD. She does sound like she is on the spectrum. Good Luck and keep us up to date!
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