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navywifey2003 August 8th, 2013 03:28 AM

Crumb controversy
Have you ladies heard of this?
Read about it here 'Crumb controversy': Mom angry after cafe owner publicly shames messy kids - TODAY.com
Share your thoughts :)

jhmomofmany August 8th, 2013 05:33 AM

Re: Crumb controversy
No matter how the mom and/or kids behaved, that FB post was out of line. The business owner was within her rights to confront the mom about the mess, IMO, but her lack of tact will probably end up costing her business. Not to mention she's probably being sued right this minute.

Stuff like this is why we can't take our family out to eat without getting "looks" from staff and other customers.

Kyla0709 August 8th, 2013 05:43 AM

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I seriously just got done watching a clip about all that before I came here. Honestly, I think owners need to recognize the fact that if they welcome families to their establishments, there's a chance their restaurants will serve children. Frankly, kids are messy. It's a rare thing to meet a kid that's a very neat eater. While I don't think it's appropriate for children to be allowed to act up to the point of disruption of other patrons, I don't think it's right to embarrass a mom and ask her to leave if her children are just making a little mess. What are brooms for? Oh yeah, for owners like her to ride to work, lol!

eshute August 8th, 2013 06:58 AM

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Oh good heavens! If you welcome families, there will be messes. If you don't want to deal with that, then post a sign that states a minimum age for patrons. They were eating scones. Ever had a scone? It's not exactly easy for an adult to eat a scone without getting a few crumbs, either. And the one lady that commented "I raised two children and they NEVER left messes like that!" can bite me. What did she do, tie her kids to a feeding trough at mealtime? Because if that's not what she did, her kids made messes.

If they don't want kids in the cafe, that's fine, but they need to get over themselves.

ETA: I also don't think it's appropriate to allow your kid to make a bigger mess than they normally would, nor disturb other patrons. There is a limit, I just think that this whole situation was a bit ridiculous.

Kim3 August 8th, 2013 07:27 AM

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Scones will produce crumbs. I have seen kids make complete messes and run around restaurants. I think owners have a right to approach parents when kids run around as it creates a danger for servers. Just think hot coffee and a kid running between tables. In addition there is no excuse for a huge mess. If you kid throws something then pick it up (like a napkin, fry, etc.) However, crumbs happen. And the FB was out of line.

navywifey2003 August 8th, 2013 10:50 AM

Re: Crumb controversy
I saw this on FB and I went to her FB page to check it out. The mom this happened to posted to the owners apology thread for posting it on FB. She told her to never come back with her children. These kids are 1 and 3, the mom did her best to clean up the mess but messes happen. What if the mom or someone without kids spilled coffee? Dropped a few crumbs? She runs a business, children or not messes are going to happen.

hilachu August 8th, 2013 06:35 PM

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its hard to see how messy the mess was
i always clean up after my son, hell i clean up after DH and myself, making piles of stuff and stacking everything

MarylandMama August 8th, 2013 07:40 PM

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I always clean up after myself and my kids as much as is humanly possible, but there is no way to get every crumb off the floor. The whole scenario is crazy. As other people said, adults make bigger messes and seldom clean up after themselves. Don't businesses have vacuums for that very reason? This whole thing is totally silly. Yes, some parents allow their kids to trash public places, run around like crazy, and disrupt others. That is unacceptable and it is perfectly reasonable that those people be asked to leave if their behavior posts a threat to safety or serious disruption to other patrons. But for some crumbs on the floor? Give me a break.

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