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Originally Posted by HappyHippy
No, I'm saying it only takes once. So why does it matter if you had sex with a guy during a one night stand, or a guy you've been dating for a year? Both could have HIV.
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Yes. However, you can only make the best informed decisions you can. I say to myself, it's more likely I'll catch something if I get banged by this random dude at a bar - than my husband of almost 8 years. You can't know every piece of fact in the universe, that is a fact, which is why you make the best informed decisions you can with the information you have. I've never said that *my* ethics and moral values disagree with the statement that people should inform their sexual partner if they're carrying something - I wholeheartedly think they should. But to make it some sort of mandate - I don't agree with that.
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Just because you've known them longer doesn't mean your chance to contract the disease is less.
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Statistically, yes, it is.
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Like I said in my previous post, some of the cases I was reading about the women were dating their boyfriend for awhile before having sex/unprotected sex and they got HIV from him. He knew he was infected but lied to his girlfriends.
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Okay.
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I'm all for personal responsability, but that is a two way street. If you are HIV positive it is your *personal responsability* to let your future sex partner know you are HIV positive. You don't have the right, in my opinion, to knowingly have sex with people without informing them you have HIV. And that opinion is when the person *knows* they have HIV. Why should you have a right to privacy when that is a deadly disease and you are knowingly exposing someone?
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So people who have diseases that could be spread don't have a right to personal, medical privacy? They should be legally obligated to share their private medical record with anyone they come in contact with? B/c that's what it really comes down to - the risk isn't only there for just sex, it's there for say, sneezing on someone if you have tuberculosis; getting blood drawn; getting your finger accidentally cut.
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It really does seem like blaming the victim. "You didn't wear a condom", "You trusted someone", etc.
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Where did I say, ever, that anyone should point the finger and be like, "You should have done something different"? Nowhere, is where. I would point my finger at the person who didn't take personal responsibility to tell his or her partner. But it doesn't mean I would support a law making them share their private and personal information.
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Every day we rely on other people to help keep us safe. Police, other drivers on the road, neighbors/family/friends, Chefs making sure their food is safe for consumption, farmers, public transit, and so on. This isn't any different. People who are carrying a STD/STI have their own personal responsability to let people they may have sex with know.
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Two points here - One, I don't blindly rely on other people to keep me safe. I hope the police will do their job, but make it a point to not go into dangerous neighborhoods, etc. I DEFINITELY don't rely on the idea that other people on the road have my best interests at heart. That is why I drive defensively - you assume that other people are going to screw up and hit you. I could go on and on for every example you listed.
And the same goes with other people I'm going to have sexual contact with. You seem to be basing your arguments around the idea that I'm saying people should not tell people they have a disease - if so, you're not reading my posts.