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January 30th, 2009, 01:53 PM
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What would the punishment be for having one? Obviously, women still had abortions pre Roe v Wade - they were unsafe, unclean and very dangerous. So if abortion was to be made illegal again, and a woman was caught having one, should she be arrested? Tried for murder? Sent to prison? Given a fine or community service?
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January 30th, 2009, 06:11 PM
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They would probably send her to prison or give a fine. But personally I don't think making abortion illegal is going to fix anything. Why do people think that making abortion illegal is somehow going to turn the world into some sort of sunshiny place where everyone sees the "error" of their way and suddenly wants to be a mommy if they accidentally get pregnant. If anything I can 100% guarentee that PPD and PPP would go up and I can bet there will be a lot of overcrowding in adoptive agencies, woman will just use unsafe methods to self abort and more woman will abandon their children. Honestly making abortion illegal is not going to fix anything as there is nothing wrong.
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January 30th, 2009, 06:20 PM
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If pre term abortions were made illegial I personally think there would be more post birth ones (aka murder, or infantcide). And since there are already millions of kids out there waiting to be adopted, we're just gonna end up with more orphans. I've "technically had an abortion" because I had to terminate a pregnancy before fetal death. Should I have been forced to carry a pregnancy that was going to end with in 10 weeks anyways? If abortion was illegial I would have to deal with a stillbirth vs was medically deemed as a miscarriage, because my boys had a fatal disorder.

If it's made illegial people would just go outside of the country to have it done. But I don't think it will ever really be made illegial, because it breaches the freedom of choice that we've been given.
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I think the question's pretty pointless since it's never going to happen. Society as a whole does not place equal value on all ages,stages, and conditions of life. Equal protection is not given nor will it ever be.

For the sake of the question, though, I don't know. On one hand an abortion is the willfull ending of a life. But the circumstances surrounding many abortions are so emotional that it would make it very difficult to lay out one specific "punishment". And if a woman has other children... you can't just punish those children by taking away their mother, though we would if she murdered someone out of the womb... I can't give an answer. As for a doctor who performs the abortion, I absolutely believe he should be charged with murder. He is under no emotional duress.
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February 23rd, 2009, 01:51 PM
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I think the question's pretty pointless since it's never going to happen. Society as a whole does not place equal value on all ages,stages, and conditions of life. Equal protection is not given nor will it ever be.

For the sake of the question, though, I don't know. On one hand an abortion is the willfull ending of a life. But the circumstances surrounding many abortions are so emotional that it would make it very difficult to lay out one specific "punishment". And if a woman has other children... you can't just punish those children by taking away their mother, though we would if she murdered someone out of the womb... I can't give an answer. As for a doctor who performs the abortion, I absolutely believe he should be charged with murder. He is under no emotional duress.[/b]
There are too many variables to take into account to make it flat out illegal. I'd be thrilled if we could limit the types of abortion, but legislation and such would have to be very thorough.
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February 25th, 2009, 12:46 PM
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I had an abortion when I was a teen at 17 and will say that I live with "punishment" everyday thinking about what I did. It's a worse punishment than jail time or a fine, imo
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I think murder would be fitting. You don't want a kid then you should keep your legs shut, plain and simple.
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I think murder would be fitting. You don't want a kid then you should keep your legs shut, plain and simple.
I do agree. My dad has always said to me "You play, you must pay". The only sure birth control is not having sex so with that you must know that even if you are the most careful and protected player, there is the possibility that a life could be formed.
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March 11th, 2009, 07:29 AM
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Gina, I agree with you, and I live with my punishment. Legal or not...no one wins.
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March 11th, 2009, 07:42 AM
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Actually if it was illegal the person performing the abortion would be charged with murder and the woman would be an accessory, technically right?
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March 11th, 2009, 09:33 AM
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I think murder would be fitting. You don't want a kid then you should keep your legs shut, plain and simple.

Murder? Really? Dont agree with that at all.

1st. NOT wanting the child is not the only reason people would have an abortion. There are numnerous medical diagnosis where terminating the pregnancy could be the best descision.

2nd. I pray that it never comes to a situation where you are faced with making a descision like that. Maybe you wouldnt agree that Murder should be fitting anymore.
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I think murder would be fitting. You don't want a kid then you should keep your legs shut, plain and simple.
I'm sure this is a reasonable suggestion to people that are raped too. Plain and simple, right?
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March 11th, 2009, 10:07 AM
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The woman could be tried for murder just as women who pay to have their husbands killed are. The woman could also perform the abortion on herself. What if the woman punched herself in the stomach? Took herbs that cause a miscarriage? Drank? Smoked? This is too slippery of a slope.
That's what I don't get about the ND abortion law. What if she did accidentally cause the abortion, is it negligent manslaughter? Does a death certificate need to be drawn up?
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May 24th, 2009, 10:36 AM
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Abortion is illegal where I live. I have never heard of back street abortions though. People just travel somewhere abortion is legal. From here women travel to Scotland or England.
birth control has been legal in the South less then 50 years, which is probabley less time then abortion has been legal in the US.
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May 24th, 2009, 10:52 AM
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I think murder would be fitting. You don't want a kid then you should keep your legs shut, plain and simple.
Abortion is never "plain and simple", and it is naive and ignorant to believe so.
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May 24th, 2009, 02:03 PM
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I do not believe in abortion, BUT, I don't think making it illegal is wise. People do what they want. They make their own choices. If I knew of someone having an abortion, I would try to counsel them but I am not responsible for their choices. I do believe people need to realize that with sex comes consequences, and not all good. And that they are wrong for taking a life simply because they don't want a child. Rape, incest, those are obviously different things, but for the everyday girl...use some sense!!! Come on. Men & women should stop making excuses or saying "It just happened" **** one does, doesn't "just happen"they LET it happen! (Now, please do not mistake this with being a crime victim. That's just crappy luck! You are not deciding to be a victim). If a person opens their legs, they should be mature enough to handle protecting themselves. And if they can't handle the risks of pregnancy or STD's even when protection is used, they should abstain. How hard is that, really???

But all that being said: Making abortion illegal is counterproductive. People will just resort to handling what they don't know about, themselves. Black market abortions, infections, etc will just happen over again. We don't have to agree with abortion, but I don't have to live with someone's stupid decisions in their lives. THEY DO!
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