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May 6th, 2010, 08:30 PM
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I wasn't sure where to post this, so I decided to play it safe.

One of my friends posted this picture on her facebook:





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I, for one, love the shirt!
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May 6th, 2010, 08:50 PM
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I'm not convinced that the pro-life agenda is concerned about quality of life of the living in the first place.
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May 6th, 2010, 08:53 PM
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I'm not convinced that the pro-life agenda is concerned about quality of life of the living in the first place.
I agree.
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May 7th, 2010, 05:39 AM
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I am for saving any child no matter what they do later in life. If my child is gay, then I will still love my child. I don't always have to agree with what my child does to still love him/her with all of my heart.
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May 7th, 2010, 06:12 AM
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May 7th, 2010, 07:05 AM
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I am for saving any child no matter what they do later in life. If my child is gay, then I will still love my child. I don't always have to agree with what my child does to still love him/her with all of my heart.
Do you support gay marriage? Do you speak out in defense of gay rights? That is the premise of the shirt. Would you or do you fight for the rights of everyone or just fetuses?
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May 7th, 2010, 07:26 AM
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Do you support gay marriage? Do you speak out in defense of gay rights? That is the premise of the shirt. Would you or do you fight for the rights of everyone or just fetuses?
To be honest, I don't care what or who someone marries. I am not going to be protesting for or against gay marriage. It doesn't matter to me.

I will be there with my voice when something involves the ending of an innocent life though. (meaning abortion)
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hee hee... ok, I love that shirt.
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May 7th, 2010, 02:35 PM
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Do you support gay marriage? Do you speak out in defense of gay rights? That is the premise of the shirt. Would you or do you fight for the rights of everyone or just fetuses?
People obviously don't agree on WHAT rights should be protected. If you are in favor of protecting the right to life HOW does that translate to - you must support guy marriage? I don't follow.

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One of my friends posted this picture on her facebook:





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I, for one, love the shirt!
I think the shirt indicates that a lot of pro-choice people do not understand why most people against abortion hold that stance.
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May 7th, 2010, 03:40 PM
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I think the shirt indicates that a lot of pro-choice people do not understand why most people against abortion hold that stance.
It's the whole conundrum though.. I'll read the stance that people are against socialized medicine yet they expect pregnant women who can't afford to have a baby or take care of a baby to keep the baby. (Nevermind if there is a health issue with the mom or baby in the first place.) So regardless of the stance on gays, the worlds of pro-choice and pro-life seem so far apart some days.
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I've seen that before, I love that shirt.

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May 7th, 2010, 07:47 PM
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I can only speak for myself, but the answer to the question on the t-shirt is yes. I am both pro-life and in support of gay marriage. (And also in support of universal health care, for what it's worth). But I know most pro-life folks don't share those views, and I do think that's unfortunate.
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the worlds of pro-choice and pro-life seem so far apart some days.
I would agree with this.
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This shirt assumes you are pro-life because of religious beliefs that also make you oppose gay rights. I expect that is the case for the most vocal of groups in the pro-life movement, but certainly isn't for all that are anti-abortion.

Personally, my anti-abortion stance isn't rooted only in religious beliefs. It also has nothing to do with what that child may do later in life. There are plenty of things that child could grow up to do that I wouldn't agree with. That doesn't mean the child doesn't deserve a chance at life though.

Oh, and I also think it's terribly sad that a woman would be forced into making the choice to abort because she can't afford medical care for herself or that child So Michelle, I would have to agree with you that it is not fair that those against socialized medicine expect a woman to not have an abortion - but it's not the abortion stance I would have them change.
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I can think of a pretty good argument against that shirt:

The homosexual community can fight for their own rights, while a fetus needs someone to fight for it. So I would be far more inclined to actively fight for the life of a fetus over gay marriage, regardless of my stance on the second issue.

I don't *really* understand what protecting life has to do with protecting marriage, but I understand what the shirt is trying to accomplish.
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I love that shirt!
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I can think of a pretty good argument against that shirt:

The homosexual community can fight for their own rights, while a fetus needs someone to fight for it. So I would be far more inclined to actively fight for the life of a fetus over gay marriage, regardless of my stance on the second issue.

I don't *really* understand what protecting life has to do with protecting marriage, but I understand what the shirt is trying to accomplish.
I really like how this comes across in your post. Yes, protect the innocent because they have no one to defend them.
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I actually have that quote on my myspace. Of course not everyone is the same and there are conservative people out there who are pro-life and tolerant gays just like there are people who are pro-choice but intolerant of gays. What the ratios are of that I can't tell you but people like that do exist. However I have to say that if there was some kind of "gay gene" and it could be determined at conception that an embryo was going to turn into a gay child there would be many pro-lifers either changing their stance on abortions or giving birth to children with the intention of putting them into some form of torturous psychotherapy to be "un-gay".
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