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October 19th, 2006, 09:33 PM
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I'm pro-choice, but this is a very disturbing case. I think she needs some serious mental help.

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October 19th, 2006, 09:42 PM
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That is horrible. I dont even know what else I can say...

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October 19th, 2006, 10:54 PM
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That's sick that she got out free.
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October 19th, 2006, 11:03 PM
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I'm glad she "got away" with it but I feel she should still have felony of the gun, faults police report and any other posable charges.
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October 20th, 2006, 07:31 AM
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Ok, most probably won't agree with me, but I think she should have been in serious trouble. This was ON HER DUE DATE!!! This baby was obviously past the point considered viable. She should have all 3 charges slapped on her. It says this is her 3rd daughter, if she has the other 2 I would be concerned for their safety. If this woman can shoot herself in the stomach to kill her baby, I would be worried what she could do to the other children. So sick and sad.
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October 20th, 2006, 08:03 AM
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I can't believe she got off FREE! There needs to be laws for that.
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October 20th, 2006, 08:41 AM
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**thinking to myself** I haven't read it yet.. but I wonder if there was a way for a girl (in this frame of mind) to have a baby sedated? If there was that kind of technology, I wonder if women who aren't in that state of mind would have the same procedure? Hmm....
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October 20th, 2006, 09:22 AM
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I'm sure they could have given her an epidural and various other IV drugs during labor to sedate her, take away most of the pain, and possibly even give an amnesic-effect. The issue though was that she had the attitude of, "If I'm not going to raise her, nobody can." A woman who shoots herself in the belly is obviously not that concerned about pain. She just decided, at the last minute, she didn't want another child. It seems clear that she's not mentally stable/balanced. No sane woman does something like that. She could have had an abortion up until 20-25 weeks which is the cut-off for most clinics. I can't help but wonder what in the world is going on in her life and head that she could plan and go through something like that...and how she could be released, with no mention of her other children being placed in protective custody or her getting the mental help it seems she so desparately needs.

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October 20th, 2006, 09:27 AM
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I wonder if it was also a suicide attempt?

Finding solutions can be tough. Our hormones, social environments and brain chemistry are so complex.. it's a sad story for sure.
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October 20th, 2006, 01:20 PM
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That is really distrubing. If you are going to carry a baby to term, not want it, deliver and give it up for adoption.
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Ok, most probably won't agree with me, but I think she should have been in serious trouble. This was ON HER DUE DATE!!! This baby was obviously past the point considered viable. She should have all 3 charges slapped on her. It says this is her 3rd daughter, if she has the other 2 I would be concerned for their safety. If this woman can shoot herself in the stomach to kill her baby, I would be worried what she could do to the other children. So sick and sad.[/b]


Sorry, that's just sick. I have no words right now...ugh I'm just so pissed. She should be put away for life.
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October 20th, 2006, 04:32 PM
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Maybe laws differ - but even here you cannot shoot yourself & just go home once you are healed - you have to have a psych evaluation & the courts can determine you are a danger to yourself & others & keep you for treatment. Even if there is no law on the books for hte death of that baby - there certainly are laws for her false statements & her firearm. I hope to God her other children have been taken away as she is CLEARLY not stable.
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You killed your child and your worried about getting on with YOUR life? I hope she burns in hell!!
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ITA !! I don't know how she can even live with herself knowing she did that !!


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That is really distrubing. If you are going to carry a baby to term, not want it, deliver and give it up for adoption.[/b]
ITA - what a nut job .


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Ok, most probably won't agree with me, but I think she should have been in serious trouble. This was ON HER DUE DATE!!! This baby was obviously past the point considered viable. She should have all 3 charges slapped on her. It says this is her 3rd daughter, if she has the other 2 I would be concerned for their safety. If this woman can shoot herself in the stomach to kill her baby, I would be worried what she could do to the other children. So sick and sad.[/b]


Sorry, that's just sick. I have no words right now...ugh I'm just so pissed. She should be put away for life.
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She should be put away for life . That is MURDER !
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October 21st, 2006, 05:42 PM
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the Problem with calling it murder is she was still pregnant that means if they desided 38-40 was murder. Then It would be just pushed back further and further until abortion was illegal. We all agree that this lady needs help and was desprite. I hope she acually wasn't just relised because to risk your own life that much with out it being suiside is signs you need help learning cause and effect. She needs medical teatment not a murder charge. She might be a lady that suffered PDD shortly before birth (I don't know what it's called then but it happens)
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October 21st, 2006, 10:28 PM
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I couldn't explain my argument, so don't ask how I don't see this as abortion. I see this as murder. She needs mental help and her children taken away from her. This is disgustig.
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October 22nd, 2006, 06:07 PM
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I think we need to actually quesytion the sanity of this woman at the time instead of calling her a nutjob. Women suffer postpartum pychosis and hurt their children, are they bad people for it????
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