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October 29th, 2006, 02:59 AM
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How do you justify being PC when EVERYONE ELSE around is not? I don't want to bring my personal situation with my daughter into this, but it's smacked in my face time and time again, where STRANGERS are allowed to question or stare and be totally un-PC - but I'm looked down at for calling abortion murder, etc etc.

I'm just curious, how it is that people can nit-pick at PC terms (when you KNOW the general idea behind the other person's arguement, just don't have a good answer, so decide to tear apart their sematics) but on the bigger issues, could stare or question or act rudely towards...a disabled person, or say, a kid with a skin disorder, or look at disgust to people who're morbidly obese. I guess what I'm talking about is the preaching of acceptance I hear about online, particularly in this forum, and the blatent opposite I experience in real life.

Whoops.

Thought I was in heated debates, not the abortion forums.

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October 29th, 2006, 04:28 AM
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Ya know...sometimes my husabnd and sit around and talk about funny or smart ***** comebacks for people who say mean things like you mentioned. yeah, we get relaly bored at times

My only issue with the use of murder here is not really a "PC" issue...it's my dislike of its use in prolife propaganda and, of course, my belief that it isn't murder.

But these women don't need to be hearing they are murderers as well...just like someone who is obese doesn't need to be hearing any of the many evil things people say.
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October 29th, 2006, 06:31 AM
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I hate being PC but if you don't do it here noone will listen to you and I don't have a problem with people saying what they really feel. I don't think making fun of people handicaps or say skin disorders has anything to do with being PC that is just mean. Not being PC is not neccessarily being mean.
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October 29th, 2006, 08:44 AM
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How do you justify being PC when EVERYONE ELSE around is not? I don't want to bring my personal situation with my daughter into this, but it's smacked in my face time and time again, where STRANGERS are allowed to question or stare and be totally un-PC - but I'm looked down at for calling abortion murder, etc etc.

I'm just curious, how it is that people can nit-pick at PC terms (when you KNOW the general idea behind the other person's arguement, just don't have a good answer, so decide to tear apart their sematics) but on the bigger issues, could stare or question or act rudely towards...a disabled person, or say, a kid with a skin disorder, or look at disgust to people who're morbidly obese. I guess what I'm talking about is the preaching of acceptance I hear about online, particularly in this forum, and the blatent opposite I experience in real life.

Whoops.

Thought I was in heated debates, not the abortion forums.

Sorry for the wrong post-y-ness[/b]
(No worries! We can debate it outside abortion then if you'd like.)

I know you likely feel real-life discrimination daily.. I wish you didn't have to deal with that.

My personal feelings about the PC life we preach about? Justmommies obviously has mom's who care, personal computers, and internet hook-up. We are actually speaking of a small portion (unfortunately) of the population. But if we don't start this dialogue, how will it develop a nation? We are very powerful here. We have the ablity to raise our children with these ideals and also have the power to talk to our political leaders about these issues we face. Imagine if every mom here, who hates a pedophile and lack laws, actually took the time to say something to the media and their political leaders, then we could start real changes. But the conversations we have here, I don't really feel people do in real life. I kinda think we are suppressed to NOT speak about these issues and at least we can here with each other. I feel lucky to have people in my life who I can speak with about these things but it's not like here.

About the nit-pickiness.. I kinda feel when I start taking about the bigger picture and the underlined issues, I get told I'm straying from the subject and should start another topic.. So I feel people are in huge denial about the big issues you speak of.
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October 29th, 2006, 01:11 PM
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How do you justify being PC when EVERYONE ELSE around is not? I don't want to bring my personal situation with my daughter into this, but it's smacked in my face time and time again, where STRANGERS are allowed to question or stare and be totally un-PC - but I'm looked down at for calling abortion murder, etc etc.

I'm just curious, how it is that people can nit-pick at PC terms (when you KNOW the general idea behind the other person's arguement, just don't have a good answer, so decide to tear apart their sematics) but on the bigger issues, could stare or question or act rudely towards...a disabled person, or say, a kid with a skin disorder, or look at disgust to people who're morbidly obese. I guess what I'm talking about is the preaching of acceptance I hear about online, particularly in this forum, and the blatent opposite I experience in real life.

Whoops.

Thought I was in heated debates, not the abortion forums.

Sorry for the wrong post-y-ness[/b]
People should be better than they are - no doubt. I think it comes through education. When my niece was 10 we took her to DH's family reunion. He has an uncle that has a very scary looking hook for a left lower arm. She was playing with our binoculars & using them to stare at Uncle Joe from across a field. I caught her & when I asked she was embarassed. I took her over to Uncle Joe, telling her it is rude to stare & if she had a genuine question & wanted to understand, the only way to do that was to ask him...so she did. He told her what had happened to his arm & how he ended up with the hook & funny stories about scaring off boys from his daughters while they were in high school. We talked after about it & I explained that it isn't always okay to walk up to people & be nosey - but it is ALWAYS better to talk to someone if you can't control yourself rather than stare & staring is terribly rude & hurtful even if the reasons we are doing it aren't meant to be cruel. I tried to show her appropriate ways to handle it & appropriate questions you can ask & questions that just really aren't any of your busines in hopes that eventually she will grow up to have better understanding & compassion.

As far things being so different out IRL...well there are many reasons. I can tell you that I am not much different IRL than I am here. I generally accept people as they are, even their ideas & lives vary greatly from my own. If I have a friend that is doing something detrimental to themselves - I will express it as lovingly as possible - but I don't harp - it's their life. I think you do get almost a "type" of person (generally woman) on JM that isn't necessarily typical either of what you run across in the street. We all must have something in common to want to come here regularly & share thoughts & ideas, support, etc. So perhaps what you get here isn't ever going to be a typical representation of what you get IRL.
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