[plan4fate]

The only time I support anyone's right to have an abortion is when the mother's life is in imminent danger. And by imminent danger, I mean she will most certainly die if she carries the child to term. I don't consider psychological side-effects, or other medical complications (like having to have a c-section due to severe hydrocephaly) that don't imminently endanger the life of the mother to be "good enough" (for lack of a better word) reasons to have an abortion.

As far as rape goes, I hope I would have the strength and courage to carry a baby to term and then place it for adoption, and while I still don't want to see an innocent life ended because of the actions of a rapist, I won't be condemning anyone for that choice.

As far as other situations, I have little to no sympathy for women who have abortions for other reasons. I don't care how complicated the situation, there are ALWAYS other options, in my opinion. I don't think I could continue to maintain a relationship with a woman who chose to have an abortion outside these situations.[/b]

I had an "abortion" because my sons had zero hope of survival due to a chromosomal disorder. My doctor and I (along with a few specialists) sat down and laid out what would happen if I chose to carry to term and I chose to put an end to their and my suffering and terminated. At the time I didn't even know what was wrong because I refused an amnio, all we knew was development was way off, and as I'd been spotting heavily for a while, and my bloodwork was off the charts crazy, nothing looked right. I've since seen that happens when you carry to term (their father has since had another loss, undiagnosed until his gf went into labor at 19 weeks and the baby stillborn) and I do not regret my choice what so ever. Term for their disorder is about 19-20 weeks.

So that means you would have no sympathy for me, or for her because had we known how my boys got the disorder, she would have terminated as well. His disorder (he has partial, but a partial person passes the gene on as complete) is passed down through him and the moment the chromosome triples, it's a death scentence for the baby. We didn't know until after their loss that the disorder was passed from him to all three of his babies, literally condemming them from conception.

Okay, I just have to ask...The women who are saying "other, because it's okay whenever a woman decides she wants one," are you really saying you support a woman choosing to have an abortion because she wanted a girl, and is having a boy?!?![/b]

I do not belive in abortion past viability for anything other than medical necessity so I would not be supportive of this. Also, I do not believe in gender selection unless there is a medical need for it (I have an aunt that cannot have daughters due to passing on the Tay Sachs condition, she has lost 5 in total all with the disorder). Gender selection for preference doesn't jive with me at all.

First off I don't think you truly understand what a women goes through when she makes this decision and how it affects her for the rest of your life. If you are so "againts" abortion, why don't you go and adopt children that don't have families? Instead of having your own?? How many children are there that don't have a family, which could have been avoided if the mother had decided that she would make the "best" choice at the time and terminate the pregnancy?? Killing a fetus is completely different than killing a toddler. I don't understand how you could even say this, it isn't even considered a fetus until the heart starts beating, at what 10 wks. You are completly ignorant when it comes to peoples choices and decisions, everyone leads a different life. Every Women should be allowed to make the decision that is best for HER and who are you to say that having a baby is HER best choice? It might be right for you, but not for everyone. As for quoting one of the ten commandments, how many of those are broken every day? Thou shalt not lie, I am sure you have told a lie who hasn't, thou shall love thy neighbour, who loves all of their neighbours?? Seriously, are we going to through more "helpless" children into this world, just because some people don't believe in having abortions?? How about making it a law that you have to get a parenting course before you decide to have kids and that you need a license to be parents, is that what we should do? so that all the parents out there that don't and can't take care of their children can't have them? I have friends who neglect their children, who sluff them off onto one babysitter to another, never spending time with them, not having the money to buy them groceries, and you think that is ok??


I think that every women has HER own right to decide when and what SHE wants to do. I have had an abortion, even after swearing all my life that I would never do it, that I could never do it, but the situation was horrible and I did not want to bring a child into this world where it wouldn't be given the life it should have. To this day I have feelings of guilt and anger at myself, but that doesn't effect your life does it? no it doesn't I am the one who has to deal with my choices, your life still goes on like normal. Stop being so judgmental because until you have been there and experienced something you can never understand. Through all of this, I know that I made the right decision, my life wouldn't be where it is today if I hadn't made those choices, I would still be in an abusive relationship, instead of with my wonderful husband who supports me and loves me even knowing the choices that I have made in my past. He doesn't judge me, he doesn't tell me to get over it, he is there when I am sad and when I am guilty and when I need to talk about my baby, because that what it was to me and that is what it is to every women, it is OUR baby, we had to make the hard choice to decide not to go thru with the pregnancy, but that doesn't make that baby any less of child to us, it isn't like we have no feelings. I am reminded daily about my decision, every baby I see, I think to myself I could have a toddler by now, but that wasn't what my life was supposed to be, this is what my life is, here and now. My DH and I are TTC our first, and it is painful, because I feel all the time, well why do I deserve another baby, I gave mine up, and you know what my DH says to me "You are the most wonderful person in the world, with the biggest heart, you will get your baby, because we were meant to have that baby, not you alone" and I know that I do deserve to have another chance, to make things right for the choices that i made.

I have no regrets, I made my decision and that was what happened. I am just glad that I had the CHOICE, that I wasn't forced into something that I couldn't handle at the time.

If you want to judge me feel free, but you can never judge me as much as I judge myself, because you don't know me.[/b]

HUGS to you hun, you are a wonderful person and you will get that baby you and your DH are waiting on.

THis is always a difficult thing for me to talk about...

I am pro-life. I have watched videos of babies being aborted and it almost made me throw up. I wonder if most of the women who get abortions simply because "they feel like it" because they were too lazy to use birth control, watched the procedures being done, and watched the doctors ripping apart their babies limb by limb if they would still consider it.

I find it absolutely dispicable that the UK will allow abortions up to 24 weeks. My baby was born at 24 weeks and survived. Babies are considered "viable" at this stage. That I consider murdering absolutely. Those babies have a chance at survival after 24 weeks. Anything before even 23 weeks will not survive outside the womb. (in which case I still consider abortion at any gestation killing. those babies are alive, moving, swallowing and have a heartbeat. It is alive) I think the poeple who allow abortions that late into a pregnancy need to have their doctoring liscense revoked and I think people who do it that late need to be punished by the law.

The only situations in which I see abortion "necessary" is when the mom is at risk of dying or the baby is very sick and/or severely disfigured and will not survive once born and women/young girls who have been raped. As for women who use this as a form of birth control.. I think they are severely screwed up in their head and need some counselling. I have no respect or sympathy for women who get multiple abortions by choice. There's so many forms of birth control out there. If you are not smart enough to be using it, than you should not be having sex...period. Yeah ok a young couple (teens) is uneducated on the consequences of unprotected sex. So she goes in and has an abortion. But for the same person to just go and do it again, knowing full well what can happen and has happened to her in the past to go and do it for a 2nd, 3rd, 4th time is absolutely rediculous, careless and irrisponsible. If I had a friend who did that, I would tell her my opinion and probably not speak to her again.

I know my opinion is harsh but thats what I think. I am not judging anyone here. I am simply just stating how I feel about it. It just makes me so sad. I'm sorry if this makes anyone mad..[/b]

I actually saw the silent scream video years before I made my decision to terminate. Yes I had a medical reason for mine, but I made the choice before I had all the answers. I was sick, I was scared and my tests were showing problems. So I made the choice, with my doctors backing (she is very prolife) and terminated.

I don't believe in elective abortion (meaning no medical reasoning) beyond viability (really, it drives me insane beyond 12 weeks). Once a baby can survive outside the womb (so for me, cut off is 22 weeks as we have had 22 weekers survive) then IMO it is murder. While there is an occassional woman who doesn't know she's pregnant (I know one who didn't miss a period until almost her 7th month, and actually had a pap at what would have been 15 weeks and the doctor didn't clue in), the majority see all the signs and just ignore them.



The new way of piggy backing BCP is causing a lot of these late term abortions IMO. I believe that if you are piggy backing the pill (taking it for 3-6 months at a time with no period) you should have to have a test done every couple of months to ensure that it's the pill causing no period, not a pregnancy. I have a friend who was piggy backing her pills, under doctor supervision to help with migraines, and she came off her 2nd round (6 months at a time) and her period didn't show. Being smart, she POAS and voila... she's prego. In fact, she's 5.5 months prego so her first pack of pills failed and she'd been taking them daily since. She's a fluffy girl so she never noticed herself getting bigger, what made her suspicious was a lack of appetite which should have caused weight loss.


In response I said other. I have no right to tell someone what they can and cannot do with their body. I believe in educating someone about their choice, and allowing them to make it. I know of one beautiful little girl who is here because I sat down with her mother and hashed out abortion (which is what she wanted). I gave her links, info, photos and videos. I am pro choice, but I don't see the point in ending a life if at all possible. She read the research, looked at videos and photos and realized that what was inside her was more than a group of cells to her. Her intitial choice had been a knee j erk reaction to getting a +HPT and her boyfriend leaving her. She was also the one who stood beside me when I chose to terminate my own troublesom pregnancy. The day her daughter was born she placed her in my arms, and kissed my cheek and said "Thank you for my daughter, she woudln't be here if you hadn't taken the time to talk to me."

[Default User]

I voted "other." I really don't think somebody's choice to carry to term or abort is any of my business, so while I might feel that some of the reasons listed are more valid than others, that isn't the point. I support a woman's right to choose, even if her choice isn't one I'd personally support or do myself.

[.Sam.]

I don't think abortion should be used as a form of birth control, but only b/c those are my personal morals. I don't consider myself pro anything really, even though I still think it's up to the woman.

I mean, if it were fair, I'd be pro-life, but then it would be contradicting of me to tell someone what to do & how to live... everyone feels like they have a valid reason for the reason they chose abortion, and you really should respect that even if you don't agree.

[Mommy2Aiden369]

I voted other simply b/c I feel that poll wasn't covering all reasons to get an abortion and there isn't just one reason why someone would get an abortion.

I feel not only are some women not cut out to be mothers but they also aren't cut out to be pregnant women and carry a baby to term healthy and safely. For example - a drug addicted women finds her self pregnant, she doesn't know who the father is, she is living on her friends couch b/c she hasn't worked in a year, all she does all day long is do drugs and drink. Do you think that baby has a chance at becoming a healthy, happy, good citizen? I don't think so. Yeah, she can give the baby up for adoption but who is to say she will stop the drugs while pregnant? Or take her prenatal vitamins? Especially if she doesn't want the baby then she doesn't care about it. Ok, lets say she keeps it - the cycle will just continue and that baby will most likely grow up to be another drug addict in our society... do we really need that? No. So.. in my eyes not everyone should have a baby nor be pregnant. That was just one example - there are a million different scenarios that this type of debate can come up in.. and to tell someone that they HAVE to have the baby is simply not fair to the person nor the child... its just a breeding ground for uneducated, leeches of the society or rapist and murders. It takes ALOT to raise a child... its not for everyone.

[mommy10_13]

I cannot believe that 5 people actually voted that is you simply just do not want the child that you should abort. See, it is being used as an easy way out of your RESPONSIBILITY!

Originally Posted by mommy10_13

I cannot believe that 5 people actually voted that is you simply just do not want the child that you should abort. See, it is being used as an easy way out of your RESPONSIBILITY!

Contrary to popular belief, abortion IS being responsible. If someone knows that they cannot carry a child for whatever reason, cannot CARE for a child for whatever reason, then I do not believe that forcing them to carry a pregnancy and be a parent is in either the woman's best interest OR the child's, as the child very well could be abused, neglected and all sorts of other issues that can come up even while the woman is still pregnant. Why hurt the woman or child that would be born? The woman uses her CHOICE to have an abortion, just like you have that same choice to give birth and keep the child, or another woman has the choice and carries the pregnancy and chooses to adopt the child out. They are ALL RESPONSIBLE CHOICES. Whether you like abortion or not, I can't believe anyone would actually prefer for women to be FORCED to carry a pregnancy and then FORCED to parent a child they don't want. What a great way to screw up not only the woman but also the child! Yes, that is so responsible, to screw up more women and more kids just because "it's a life!". Forcing a woman to keep a pregnancy and forced to be a parent because of your personal beliefs is not responsible to me - that's tyrannical.

Anyway, point being, whether you like abortion or not, it IS the MOST RESPONSIBLE CHOICE for some women - and whether you like it or not, there are some instances in which a child should NEVER be born into. Not everything in this world is sunshine and puppies, and adoption is not always an option either that is always sunshine and puppies either. Point blank - abortion is not some great evil that needs to be eradicated and that it is somehow "irresponsible". A mother who already has four children of her own, works two jobs already, is married, her husband has been laid off, they struggle daily just to feed, clothe and care for the four children they already have, she gets pregnant while on birth control and using a condom, has no access to medical insurance or welfare because she falls just over the limit... how is that woman supposed to adequately care for that pregnancy and the resulting child while still caring for her already existing children and husband and working two jobs to do that? HOW is that irresponsible for her to get an abortion when her circumstances clearly make it impossible for her to carry a pregnancy to term and care for that child? That's not irresponsible - that is being responsible for her family. And you can claim all day that scenario doesn't happen that often - but it does, and you also need to realize that not everyone lives in a sunshine and puppies world, and women, for whatever reason they hold, should not be forced to carry a pregnancy when they do not wish to. I rather like the autonomy over my own body and my reproductive system, and I find it absolutely appalling that other women presume that they can tell other women what to do with their own reproductive organs simply because they believe that their beliefs that it's a life trumps another woman's rights. The child is not yours. The body is not yours. It is NOT your decision.

[Karin70]

It's never ok.

[SkyBaby]

It's never ok. The child is alive and should be respected as its own life. Abortion is no different than killing toddlers. If it came to my life being in danger because of a pregnancy (very very few cases of that actually happening) I would rather risk my own life than kill that child. I told my husband while I was pregnant with my daughter that if something drastic happened, he is to tell the doctors to save her. He nodded. There is nothing more precious and more worthy of protection than an innocent child.