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October 20th, 2008, 12:06 PM
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Super Mommy
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I guess I'm not really looking for a yes or no here, I'm sure I'll find out in a few days, but I'm impatient and frustrated now.
I have posted before about my confusion over my post m/c cycle. If it's going to be a crazy-long cycle, ok, but now it's just making me a little bonkers. If I just went by temps, I would have a better idea of what to think, but I have been checking my cervix too, so I have no idea. My cervix has stayed very low, firm and mostly closed. I have had 2 kids, so it won't ever be as closed as pre-babies, but I do know it has pretty much been unchanged throughout this cycle. My CM really has never helped me indicate O, so I usually go by cervix and temp. My temps do not show what my cervix has. The first few days it was up, I thought it was because I was getting sick or I was just warm, but I'm not sick and the temp of my room has varied too much for me really to think that's the cause. I just have no clue, so this is my vent and my chart for those of you who want to be confused with me.
http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/264d1
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October 20th, 2008, 12:17 PM
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Mega Super Mommy
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I would say that is a pretty clear thermal shift Jo! I can never tell with my CP because I can't differentiate between high/medium and medium/low...  ...
Either way I realllly hope you finally O'd so this wacky cycle can come to an end!!!
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October 20th, 2008, 03:05 PM
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Super Mommy
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I have always had to check my CP for charting since my CM is unreliable. I don't always get it to a T, but I usually end up getting it pretty close. I do hope I O'd, maybe things just weren't doing quite was they were supposed to, maybe my body was just "off" or something. I really just want this cycle to be over, but since my CP was what it was we weren't as careful as we should've been and now I'm a little worried too. I guess there is nothing we can do about it now, though. I typically get AF at 12 DPO, so if there's no AF by what my chart says is 14DPO, I'll be testing. As much as I want to be pg, I really don't want to worry about the risks or what my MW will say to me about not skipping a month like they told me to. I'm looking forward to the next few days, hopefully I'll get an answer!
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October 20th, 2008, 03:08 PM
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Mega Super Mommy
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It looks like a classic thermal shift I am not sure what your asking? Good luck!
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Ttcing #9 After TWO 2nd trimester loss's and FIVE 1st trimester loss's. Missing our 8 ANGEL'S
IUI W/CLOMID/TRIGGER FEB 12/13 09!
Kyle (absent) Chelsea, Miki, Hanna, Johna, Sari, Jessiah and Isaiah.
     
THE LORD GIVES AND TAKES AWAY MY HEART WILL CHOOSE TO SAY BLESSED BE HIS WONDERFUL NAME!
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17W twins (sex unkown) and "Elijah"
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October 20th, 2008, 03:18 PM
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Super Mommy
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It looks like a classic thermal shift I am not sure what your asking? Good luck![/b]
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When you O your cervix goes from low, firm and closed to high, soft and open. After the bleeding stopped post m/c I have been checking and mine never moved from low, firm and closed and still hasn't. If I wouldn't have been checking and was just going by temps I would assume I O'd, but I haven't had a fertile cervix at all this cycle so it makes no sense. Either I O'd and my cervix is wonky or I didn't O and my temps are wonky. I don't know which it is.
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October 20th, 2008, 04:55 PM
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Mega Super Mommy
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I have been charting temps, CM and CP about 8 yrs now
Yes you can O and have subtle changes. You may have had a weak Oing or just haveing a annovlatory cycle after your m/c as you are waiting to have a withdrawl bleed( Annovlatory bleed)
I had a thermal shift in my annovlatory cycle's but my P4 proved I didnt acually O really well. I had poor ewcm in annov cycles as well as little change in cervix.
Some pple dont O before first AF after a m/c.
Do you have other charts I can look at to compare to? If I could see some of your good Oing temps along with CP and CM then it would be more clear.
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~IRENE~ MOM TO 8 KIDDOES! DS 18, DD 16, DD 14, DD 8, DS 6, DD 4, DS 3 and DS 1
Ttcing #9 After TWO 2nd trimester loss's and FIVE 1st trimester loss's. Missing our 8 ANGEL'S
IUI W/CLOMID/TRIGGER FEB 12/13 09!
Kyle (absent) Chelsea, Miki, Hanna, Johna, Sari, Jessiah and Isaiah.
     
THE LORD GIVES AND TAKES AWAY MY HEART WILL CHOOSE TO SAY BLESSED BE HIS WONDERFUL NAME!
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Our 8 Greatly missed Angels
12W, 6W, 6W, 9W 1 twin, 5W
17W twins (sex unkown) and "Elijah"
17W "Angel"
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October 20th, 2008, 05:10 PM
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Super Mommy
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Join Date: Jan 2006
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I have been charting temps, CM and CP about 8 yrs now
Yes you can O and have subtle changes. You may have had a weak Oing or just haveing a annovlatory cycle after your m/c as you are waiting to have a withdrawl bleed( Annovlatory bleed)
I had a thermal shift in my annovlatory cycle's but my P4 proved I didnt acually O really well. I had poor ewcm in annov cycles as well as little change in cervix.
Some pple dont O before first AF after a m/c.
Do you have other charts I can look at to compare to? If I could see some of your good Oing temps along with CP and CM then it would be more clear.[/b]
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Alas, my binder has disappeared and with it all my charts. I have been looking for it for over a week! Anyway, I wasn't trying to insinuate that you were clueless about CP, I must've just been unclear in my first post and I'm sorry for telling you something you obviously already knew.  I've also been doing all this on and off for pregnancy for the last 5 years, so that's why I know this is unusual for me. I haven't heard of temps going up with an anovulatory cycle before, so maybe that's what it is! Hopefully either way I get AF soon. Did you notice if your LP was the same length as it was in your normal cycles. I don't know if it's still a LP if you didn't ovulate, but you know what I mean.
Thanks for the insight, that really is helpful and could explain a lot.
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October 20th, 2008, 05:38 PM
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Mega Super Mommy
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My LP was acually a bit longer and I also had the shift change later in the cycle as to when I normally would O.
I still think you Oed even though your CP and cm were not very clear. Good luck!
ETA: I took almost 12 weeks with wacky wacky cycle bleedding and spotting for first *AF* to show so I could ttcing so I understand the waiting game ughhh
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~IRENE~ MOM TO 8 KIDDOES! DS 18, DD 16, DD 14, DD 8, DS 6, DD 4, DS 3 and DS 1
Ttcing #9 After TWO 2nd trimester loss's and FIVE 1st trimester loss's. Missing our 8 ANGEL'S
IUI W/CLOMID/TRIGGER FEB 12/13 09!
Kyle (absent) Chelsea, Miki, Hanna, Johna, Sari, Jessiah and Isaiah.
     
THE LORD GIVES AND TAKES AWAY MY HEART WILL CHOOSE TO SAY BLESSED BE HIS WONDERFUL NAME!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Our 8 Greatly missed Angels
12W, 6W, 6W, 9W 1 twin, 5W
17W twins (sex unkown) and "Elijah"
17W "Angel"
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