[TeresaSuperMama]

Well apparently baby bean is trying to hold on. Hcg levels are not dropping and I am not bleeding any more. I am now up to 20. I have gone from 15 to 18 to 18 to 20 so in 6 days I have gone from 15 to 20. I have an appt on Friday with my midwife. She talked it over with the doctor and they both agree that the numbers aren't high enough to worry about an ectopic. Basically I have a couple cells around kicking it up which is why my hcg isn't dropping yet, but not really rising either. So my choices are do nothing and just wait and see what happens. Have a D&C. And check levels after D&C. If levels still aren't dropping after D&C then a shot of mexotrexate.

The other thing weird is my bleeding stopped. I was spotting Friday and light flow Saturday and Sunday. Then sometime after dinner bleeding tapered completely off and now I am not bleeding at all and haven't been all day. I checked my cervix Saturday and it was really low and open. I checked it last night and today and it is back to high and closed. It's 21 days past ovulation so I have no doubts that it is not a viable pregnancy, but it is still making it so much harder with hcg not dropping and bleeding not starting. I decided to just think on things for now. I have an appt with my midwife on Friday. I'm thinking if I haven't started bleeding and still have hcg in my system I will opt for the D&C. I am hoping that I don't have to do that, but you can't very well get pregnant when you are still technically pregnant and I really just don't know what else to do. I have a bad feeling I am going to need a D&C, but I don't know. I went ahead and decided to keep my appt at the gym tomorrow. I think at this point working out might be good for me. It's not like it can make things worse.

[momof6lopez]

I was hoping for better news Teresa, Im sorry. Kary's levels took over a month and she had initially only bled for two days and finally when they dropped in a month, she got full AF. She was on the fence about a d&c too, but waited it out, which luckily worked and her cycle is back on track. We were both waiting for ours to drop and did not want the d&c because it took so long for our cycles to regulate after a d&c. I pray yours drop by the end of the week and no d&c is required.

[TeresaSuperMama]

Originally Posted by momof4lopez

I was hoping for better news Teresa, Im sorry. Kary's levels took over a month and she had initially only bled for two days and finally when they dropped in a month, she got full AF. She was on the fence about a d&c too, but waited it out, which luckily worked and her cycle is back on track. We were both waiting for ours to drop and did not want the d&c because it took so long for our cycles to regulate after a d&c. I pray yours drop by the end of the week and no d&c is required.

Thanks, I posted this on the TTC board as well and was hesitant to post it there because I was afraid I'd have people asking me if I was sure this couldn't be a viable pregnancy and of course that has come up. I am not upset with anyone for thinking that because God knows I would love to convince myself that is the case, but emotionally not going to walk down that road today.

[farasha]

I'm sorry hun. HUGS. Kary will tell you the same thing too... and I'm glad she didn't have to have a D&C. Having one for numbers that low is kinda hard to justify - I wish they would just either let nature run its course, or make you start your period. I mean.. it is a surgery, and we all know it's not fun at all. If I were you, I'd personally give it one more week and get my levels tested again. But whatever you feel is best for you, is what you should do.. I completely understand the want to move on.

[Celena]

Teresa, I am sorry to hear that your levels aren't doubling or dropping. I think since your levels are low I'd wait it out. You have taken the right path for now, waiting... let your body try to handle things naturally. At this point that would be your best option, if you want to be able to TTC soon after your body has taken the length of time it needs to process everything. I know how frustrated you are that it isn't happening quickly, but from my experiences it doesn't happen quickly (nor for most women) You're a week past your AF due date right? It can take up to 6-8 weeks before AF returns, even a few cycles to become normal. So even tho what is happening isn't the way it is supposed to progress, it is in some form progressing normally.

It's NOT what any of us want to hear, but these things take time. Gosh I LOATHED hearing that, but nothing was more true. I think in some way it helps give our minds a little hiatus from the TTC journey, not in the best of terms but we need that some time after our losses to collect ourselves. Some ladies heal faster than others... I hope you're one of those lucky ones!

Gigantic Teresa!!!

[Kary♥RN]

Hi Teresa... I know people have brought up my numbers.. So I figured I would give you all the numbers... and time line. (I know I did give you few levels..) First off let me explain why I was on the fence... I had a d/e on Feb 6th. It took my body MONTHS to get back on track.. I was in pain, yes physical pain for almost 5 months after my d/c. My cycles were screwed up for those 5 months.. When I finally got back on track the pains went away. And yes a lot of ladies have pains after a d/c.. Right After the d/c.. I had no pains or bleeding after the procedure,andthe procedure its self was painless. It was the waiting for 35 days.. and than when the the pains started.. NOT CONSTANT.. just twinggs and pinches.. painful enough to make me stop what I was doing and wince.. With that being said.... Once my cycles regulated.. It took two cycles to get my BFP..A total of 7 months, that BFP came on Aug 26th.. My HCG's, first Level drawn on Friday the 28th was 31.. The second level on 31st was 91.. Everything was looking good. The next level was Friday the 4th of Sept.. that level was only 93. As you know it should of been over 1400.... So by the 7th of Sept I was bleeding.. Bearly bleeding.. very light for two days... I knew something was wrong.. it wasn't even like a normal cycle. I called my OB and came in for another draw on the 14th.. it was 58... They wanted me to have a D/C... Because of the above.. I said no I want to wait.. as long as I am not running a fever.. I want to m/c naturally. So I went back in on the 21st... I was only down to 52.... again the above conversation.. On the 28th I went in for my level... Down to 15! OTG! So they said to me if I didn't start bleeding in two weeks.. I would have to come back in for levels.. On Friday the 2nd.. I started to bleed. Making my m/c cycle only 25 days.. from those two days to full blown AF (Alittle more than normal AF)... So Here I am at CD10.. and as you can see I got a + OPK.. So we are back to TTC.. I know If I would have had a D/C I would not be Oing this soon.

This is only what I decided.. You have to do what is right for you. I hope this gives you a better idea of why I decided to do what I did.. HUGS and KUP...

[TeresaSuperMama]

Originally Posted by Kary♥RN

Hi Teresa... I know people have brought up my numbers.. So I figured I would give you all the numbers... and time line. (I know I did give you few levels..) First off let me explain why I was on the fence... I had a d/e on Feb 6th. It took my body MONTHS to get back on track.. I was in pain, yes physical pain for almost 5 months after my d/c. My cycles were screwed up for those 5 months.. When I finally got back on track the pains went away. And yes a lot of ladies have pains after a d/c.. Right After the d/c.. I had no pains or bleeding after the procedure,andthe procedure its self was painless. It was the waiting for 35 days.. and than when the the pains started.. NOT CONSTANT.. just twinggs and pinches.. painful enough to make me stop what I was doing and wince.. With that being said.... Once my cycles regulated.. It took two cycles to get my BFP..A total of 7 months, that BFP came on Aug 26th.. My HCG's, first Level drawn on Friday the 28th was 31.. The second level on 31st was 91.. Everything was looking good. The next level was Friday the 4th of Sept.. that level was only 93. As you know it should of been over 1400.... So by the 7th of Sept I was bleeding.. Bearly bleeding.. very light for two days... I knew something was wrong.. it wasn't even like a normal cycle. I called my OB and came in for another draw on the 14th.. it was 58... They wanted me to have a D/C... Because of the above.. I said no I want to wait.. as long as I am not running a fever.. I want to m/c naturally. So I went back in on the 21st... I was only down to 52.... again the above conversation.. On the 28th I went in for my level... Down to 15! OTG! So they said to me if I didn't start bleeding in two weeks.. I would have to come back in for levels.. On Friday the 2nd.. I started to bleed. Making my m/c cycle only 25 days.. from those two days to full blown AF (Alittle more than normal AF)... So Here I am at CD10.. and as you can see I got a + OPK.. So we are back to TTC.. I know If I would have had a D/C I would not be Oing this soon.

This is only what I decided.. You have to do what is right for you. I hope this gives you a better idea of why I decided to do what I did.. HUGS and KUP...

I have had a D&C before with my first m/c. I had pretty bad hemorrhaging with it and wound up in the ER when I soaked through 2 pads in 20 minutes. With my D&C my cycles returned right back to normal. With the loss before this one (a chemical pregnancy) I started bleeding within days of getting a bfp and had a normal cycle the next month.

I have a pretty strong history of hemorrhaging having done it after the birth of 3 of my children and with one of my miscarriages so I have just been keeping an eye on things, but I am slightly paranoid about it.

With my levels sitting at 20 I think a D&C would be overkill as well, but I am dreading the idea of this taking a full month to drop off. My plan as of now is to see my midwife on Friday and see if I can wait a week before having my levels drawn again. I don't like getting them drawn any more. It gets me depressed every time I see the numbers. I am playing things by ear at the moment, but very frustrated. I wasn't expecting to be sitting on these levels still.

[Celena]

Teresa my midwife sent me to a doc too with my first loss over the summer, she was saying something about possibly having to have the surgery too... my levels were 178 and tetter tottered around as well. Dropped slightly then went up by a little. It wasn't fun either. I never did have surgery, glad too!

[Trish36]

I think giving it a week before another bt is a good idea. You are right about getting depressed when things aren't progressing or going the way you hope. I really hope your numbers will be down to 0 next week! Hang in there!!!