This may have been m/c #3...

krystal g · #1 October 30th, 2009, 09:57 AM

Here's the story: Sometime in early 2008 (not sure when - I wasn't paying attention back then), back when I was still on the pill and had a perfect 29 day cycle, I had a lapse in my pill taking. I was the worst pill taker, it seems like I was always doubling up from skipping a day. Anyway, I had missed like 4 or 5 days, too many to make up, so I decided to just stop, wait for AF and start up again. I stopped somewhere in my 2nd week, most likely right before O time. I remember because I thought that there was no way I was going to ovulate after being on the pill for like 15 years, so I didn't worry. Everything was normal until AF was late. 7 days late. I took a HPT at some point, like the day AF didn't show, and it was negative. And then a week later I had the most painful cramps (second only to my m/c in July) and a whole lot of clots and a heavy, heavy period. I even said to DH (who was DB back then) that I think I may have just a had a m/c. After that first day, AF was back to normal and I started the pill and hadn't really thought much about it since then.

I told my friend about this back in July when I had my m/c and she brought it up today...that this may be #3. I never told my Dr., mostly because I didn't really have a Dr., just a clinic (yay military healthcare!) and I just didn't think about it at the time. And I never really had a post-m/c follow up (again, thank you Tricare).

I know that AF may have been late because of my pill mess up. But I wonder....I know so much more about HPTs and HCG levels now...I know I got a walmart cheapie test then...if I was pregnant my levels may have been too low when I tested to show up. I could have ovulated a little later...I don't know...

So what do you think? Am I worrying too much? Does it sound like this m/c was #3?

mlyster · #2 October 30th, 2009, 10:20 AM

First question I have for you... is it going to help you to think/know it was a m/c? If the answer is yes than we can talk yourself into it being a miscarriage (definitely sounds like a possibility) if the answer is no then we can talk you into it not being a miscarriage (the pill mess up really messes up your hormones).

I am not sure it will help to know whether it was or wasn't from the doctors perspective becuase it was so long ago and was "marred" with complicated circumstances (missing pills, no real doctor follow up, etc). But what is more important is if it will help you mentally.

krystal g · #3 October 30th, 2009, 10:25 AM

Michelle - I don't know the answer to that. I just wondered if I should tell the Dr's office when I call, that it's a possibility. Will it make them take me more seriously, possibly having 3 instead of 2? That's what I wonder. I know I will never know, and so far haven't really worried about it because I don't know and I figured one m/c was a fluke. But now, maybe there is something going on. Just wondered what you guys would do if you were in my position.

momof6lopez · #4 October 30th, 2009, 10:28 AM

Krystal, its really hard to say due to the pill and the crazyness it causes when you go off them. Possibly though. Either way, I would let your dr. know about this one so that maybe they can run preliminary tests for you. I know most dr.'s want to see a record of three losses, but these days alot of women around these boards are getting testing done at 2 losses.

Im so sorry your weekend has to start out like this, its just not right.

HopefulMommy81 · #5 October 30th, 2009, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by momof4lopez

Krystal, its really hard to say due to the pill and the crazyness it causes when you go off them. Possibly though. Either way, I would let your dr. know about this one so that maybe they can run preliminary tests for you. I know most dr.'s want to see a record of three losses, but these days alot of women around these boards are getting testing done at 2 losses.

Im so sorry your weekend has to start out like this, its just not right.

First off, I'm so sorry you're going through this!!!! I totally agree with the above- it's entirely a possiblity it was a m/c, even though it's also entirely possible that it was hormonal imbalance due to the pill. I would mention it only because it could get the tests run for you sooner, just in case there's an issue, and could help possibly prevent you from having to go through this again. Good luck!

Trish36 · #6 October 30th, 2009, 12:44 PM

I'm not sure if your dr. would even count that as one, but you can certainly bring it up...it can't hurt. Maybe then he'll do some more testing, which could be helpful.
That makes me think....When I was first dating dh, there were instances where I was late by a few days up to a week. And there were instances where I took a hpt, but probably like you just a cheapy one that would not have shown the small amount of hcg. They were always negative and I usually got AF the day that I took it. I even remember one time having the worst AF cramps. I literally lay in bed breaking out in cold sweat and couldn't even get enough energy to get to the phone to call for help. It passed and I always wondered WTH that was. (I don't even think I was late that time).
I guess I could think of it as something or nothing, but I would rather not consider it anything, because then I will get really depressed knowing that I could have had so many more m/c.

mlyster · #7 October 30th, 2009, 02:37 PM

Ladies it is entirely possible that all these "late" instances were actually chemical pregnancies / miscarriages. I have heard that many women will have chemical pregnancies / miscarriages and not even know it because they are not actively trying and won't be testing. However, I don't think they would be too big a cause for concern for most doctors (since there is very little way to tell what happened in the past if you were not even testing with HPTs). However, it can't hurt to mention that it is a possibility. I don't think they will completely disregard the information since you have now had a "known" miscarriage.

But for my own sanity I try not to think about that because I am already at 3 known miscarriages and if I think about the fact that I could have x number more it will just depress me even more.

KDD · #8 October 30th, 2009, 03:17 PM

Krystal you can tell your Dr. about it ~ but since it was never confirmed they may not think too much about it. I know that my first period off the pill was accompanied by strong cramps and heavier bleeding.

Kary♥RN · #9 October 30th, 2009, 03:30 PM

Krystal.... That is a tough one... since you were on the pill.. and missed a few days.. and stoped it all together... It could be a chalk up to pill, and not a m/c... I know when I came off the pill for being on it for almost 17 years... OH GOOD LORD!!! I thought my insides were going to fall out...
BUT>>>
on the other hand.... I did have an early loss in Nov.. and IT WAS NOT... confirmed by bloodwork.. And they count it.. I KNOW I was Pregnant... multiple + HPT's and I was about a week late when I took them.. I started to bleed within 36 hours.

I would mention it to dr, but I'm not sure what the reaction will be due to the whole pill issue.

I wish thier was an easier answer!!!

krystal g · #10 October 30th, 2009, 03:55 PM

I'll mention it to the Dr. But I prefer to just chalk it up to the pill...it makes it easier to deal with.

Of course...when I stopped taking the pill in February (after 15+ years) I had no problems. I noticed no difference in AF, no change in cramps, I ovulated on cd15 of the first cycle. The only thing that changed was that my cycle length went from 29 days to 30-31. But I know stopping mid-cycle can screw things up. It doesn't matter, just something else for me to think about.