[Natalie_Snow]

Hi everyone.

My name's Natalie. I just experienced a m/c 4 days ago. This was my first pregnancy .
We were TTC for 2 months when I got pregnant, and we were extremely excited about a baby... I was 7w 3 d when I m/c.

I started bleeding that morning & went to ER. ER doctor recommended D&C, I refused (I want it to happen naturally). I am going to see him again on Monday just in case. I am bleeding less now and still have cramping. My HCG levels were at 3160 the day I miscarried. Had an u/s and they couldn't find a baby .

I will not have an opportunity to check my HCG again. My doctor said to wait 2 or 3 normal cycles before TTC again. When I get my normal periods, it means that my HCG is back to normal pre-pregnancy levels, right?

We're going to wait several months before TTC, but I hope to start NTNP earlier. I started charting my BBT again, I just love that process!

Here, in the USA, doctors do not do anything to save the baby till you are at least 12 weeks. Several of my friends in Europe were sent to hospital for a couple of weeks/months to save their babies (they were around 4-6 weeks pregnant), so they have healthy children now (and they would have lost those embryos if they were pregnant in the USA). I'm thinking of getting pregnant here and flying to Europe to have my pregnancy & labor there. I read that it's better to fly during your 2nd trimester. But it's a long flight with several overlays. I'm afraid I wouldn't have that much time. I know that I cannot psychologically survive another m/c. But I am also afraid that such a long flight could cause a m/c as well. What would you do if you had such an option?

Anyway, I just wanted to introduce myself and wish all you ladies good luck in TTC.

[HopefulMommy81]

Natalie, I am so sorry to hear about your loss, but you are in the right place with us here, and I hope we can provide you with support and encouragment that you need right now! Why can't you get your level checked again? With levels that high, and being more than 5 weeks, you should really be making sure the levels are going down appropriately, and probably get checked again to make sure everything passes through and nothing stays in that would prevent you from having a successful pregnancy. I've been doing research since my loss and I found no studies anywhere that state a loss that early in the pregnancy can be saved, unfortunately, so I'd be interested in learning more about your friends in Europe who have had lossses prevented that early. Are you from Europe? I don't know much about flying during pregnancy. I have a clotting mutation so I plan on avoiding long flights as much as possible during my pregnancy. Good luck to you and I hope you get your BFP soon!

[Kary♥RN]

Natalie I am so sorry for your loss.. {{HUGS}}.. Welcome to the board.. I would also like more information. I have had three early losses.. and thier was nothing that could be done to save them. The first one was very early I found I was pregnant and started bleeding with in 48 hours. The scecond loss we had a heart beat, my numbers were great, levels were right on track.. I went in and the heartbeat was gone.. We had testing done and my baby had an extra chromosome.. would have never made it. The third... on my second blood test the numbers never rised... So sometimes.. nothing can be done to save the pregnancy.. no matter where you are. Now the question is.. what caused the M/C. So Please if you can post what happened to your friends, We are always looking for more information.

I hope you jump in and join us! Weclome to the board again!!

[missy123]

Hi and I am so sorry for your loss. It is so hard and painful (emotionally). Your levels should go back down within 4 weeks -- I think a few women have gone longer but for the most part within 3-4 weeks. If your doctor doesnt want to check your levels then I suggest at least taking a HPT to see if you get a negative. I am sorry you are here but glad you found us.... we all understand what you are going through.

[Natalie_Snow]

Thank you!

I do not know exactly what happened to my friends, I will do my best to find out. I read that in 60-70% of m/c the problem is with genetics/chromosomes, then they cannot help. But in those 30-40% doctors can help. For example, if there is a problem with uterus tonus. I know that one of my friends was 5 weeks pregnant and they sent her to hospital for a couple of weeks and she had IVs, shots, etc. Then she had a healthy baby girl. Doctors watched her closely & kept on bed rest.

Nobody done testing on me to determine the reasons why I had a m/c. I was actually surprised that doctors in ER couldn't determine if I was having a tubal pregnancy or a m/c or if I still had a baby. I kept asking them many questions and they couldn't give me definite answers. I was shocked that they have done a blood test, urine test, regular u/s, vaginal u/s, physical exam and still could not determine if I was/was not pregnant anymore.

Ob/Gyn just said that if I have more than 3 m/c, that's when I'd need testing. For right now, he assumed that something was probably wrong with my baby. Am I misinformed and here (USA) they would also keep you in hospital for several weeks during the first trimester if needed? I would really prefer to have a baby in the USA, but i am sooo scared to have a second m/c. I have an option to go back to living with my parents in Europe and have a baby there.

[Natalie_Snow]

Originally Posted by missy123

Hi and I am so sorry for your loss. It is so hard and painful (emotionally). Your levels should go back down within 4 weeks -- I think a few women have gone longer but for the most part within 3-4 weeks. If your doctor doesnt want to check your levels then I suggest at least taking a HPT to see if you get a negative. I am sorry you are here but glad you found us.... we all understand what you are going through.

HPT is home pregnancy test, right? When should a do that test? in a week, two, four?

You cannot imagine how much this board helps me!! I am fine around my husband. I cannot talk to my MIL without tears yet. Most of my family members did not even know that I was pregnant, so I have to pretend to be happy around them. Talking to you all really helps me a lot!

[JessP]

There are things if they already know you have a problem that they can do to ensure the safety of your baby and you. However if there is no known cause they will just determine something unavoidable was wrong. They typically won't do extensive testing until you get past 3 m/c. I am so sorry for your loss. I am glad the board is helping you. I hope your next experience is better and you have a happy and healthy baby. I would recommend checking with your friends to find out the specifics of their situations before flying to Europe to have the baby. It may be that they already had a known situation. For example I usually have anywhere from 3-5 u/s in the first trimester for all my pregnancies because of known bleeding complications. Most women don't get one depending on insurance. Good luck .

[KDD]

Welcome Natalie. I'm very sorry for your loss. Unfortunately there is very little that can be done in the case of most m/c.

I too had a natural m/c at 10 weeks. My Dr. had me go in for an u/s to make sure that all of the tissue had passed. Since it had she gave me the go ahead to start TTC again after AF showed up. I hope that everything is clear with you and you won't need a D&C.

[MeggysMommy]

It took me 2wks for my levels to go back to negative. I would ask your doctor about possibly progesterone problems? I had to demand my midwife check my levels, you are the person who is going through these things. You have the right to have any testing done you see fit. Its your body and if this doctor won't test your HCG levels then go to another doctor. Its very crucial that your numbers go back to normal that means everything has gotten out of your system the way it needs to.

[Celena]

Natalie and I'm sorry to hear about your loss... sounds like y'all were fairly lucky to get pg so quickly after trying for 2 cycles. Altho I know you don't feel so lucky to have a loss. You have your age to work in your favor and the fact you seem to have pretty good fertility... don't lose hope too quickly love, there's NOTHING to say it will ever happen to you again. Having 1 miscarriage does not mean you'll have another, ever. It does taint the excitement for a future pregnancy tho... Hopefully you will have an uneventful, stress, worry free pregnancy in the near future! I think you've come to the right place, you'll be thouroughly educated thru everyone's help, experiences, support, knowledge and compassion. You'll find out so many things and feel ALLOT less alone.

I think your friends might be slightly misinformed or misinforming you? There's very little a dr can do to stop you from miscarrying, they may have had placenta previa, a tear beneth the placenta, improper implantation or something that caused bleeding, but was not a miscarriage. Does that make sense? So don't feel like the US has let you down, miscarriage is far more common than you know... 25-30% of pregnancies end in miscarriage. Yes, most of the time it is due to chromosomal abnormalities and most of the time they don't do a necropsy on the fetal tissue. Again don't feel like you've been let down by US doctors again... I just think you were very misinformed (don't google too much it'll confuse the heck out of you, filter thru information for sure!)

some people think they're being helpful when they just give false hope. A friend of mine did that to me, it was unintentional and of course she didn't want me to hurt, but sometimes it's just not healthy to fill a persons head with false hope.

Just stay where you are sweetheart, I know you're looking for hope and want the best care possible... however leaving the country isn't going to guarentee you anything, because "no matter where you go there you are" so it can happen there just like it happen here.

[alethia]

HUGS! I am so sorry for your loss. Welcome to the group though.

[farasha]

HUGS. I am so sorry for your loss, but welcome to the group.