[ldovey83]

Does anyone know anything about them? I have been researching online and I am getting frustrated cause I had a perfect pregnancy with my son. I had not one problem besides him being breech.. I did have the mirena IUD in From June 07 till Jan09... After I had that removed I can't seem to keep a pregnancy past 6 wks.. I have read things, but most of them don't seem to be my problem since I have had a pregnancy before without any complications.. I just don't understand.. I feel so lost right now..

[mlyster]

Lindsey, I had the full gamut of testing done after my 4th miscarriage (well actually they testing started at my 3rd miscarriage). I am not sure which of the tests would have been ruled out if I had already had a successful pregnancy. In talking to my doctors and genetics counselor i don't think they would have ruled anything out except perhaps the chromosonal abnormalities. So that means uterine abnormalities, infections, blood disorders, etc are all still in play. I think you need to talk to your doctor about doing some testing.

My doctors needed to follow a certain process of tests in a certain order so don't be discouraged if they do tests that you know will come up as "normal".

I hope you get some answers!

[Celena]

You've asked the never ending question...

Yes, I've have and had reoccurant miscarriages, 3 within a 9 month period and 2 chemicals to date. Went to my doc's office yesterday and they were going to do bloodwork since I had called about the positive inet cheapie hpt. They said it was chemical along with my last cycle's digi positive being chemical.... that it seems like they both didn't implant right and since hcg passes thru your blood before your urine it picked up the hcg on it's way out of my body. (being that implantation didn't happen right thus causing a chemical pregnancy)

Been going thru all the testing and so far nothing has turned up except the ureaplasma infection, waiting for doc to go over endo biopsy results then get back to me, and next step is the HSG. I feel like asking if it could have something to do with my IUD that I had for 5 years and if they could document that in my records so perhaps the insurence would cover it being that it's not for infertility. I CAN get pregnant, so that's not the problem the problem lies in carrying past the first trimester and especially with my last implanted pregnancy being ectopic. There's notes in my file about problems as far as dysmenorrhea, pelvic pain during intercorse, uterine finbroid tumors and some other stuff the nurse told me.

Anyways, yes, I know a little but about it... there's so many contributing factors that can cause recurrent miscarriages. Allot of times they say after you've had 3 will they do testing, but now they're doing it after 2 in some offices.

What do you want to know? I'll try to answer you

[MeganMomof5]

I'm no help, but I have talked to my doctor about causes of miscarriage and why I had 2 2nd trimester losses and if it raises my risk of have another loss...I can't remember everything he said, but he said the fact that I have 4 healthy children and no major complications in my previous pregnancy's that it lowers my risk of another miscarriage....I do know that I got tested both times for many things...I could dig out my labs and look over it, but they confuse me...I asked him about clotting disorders or hormone problems and he said since I never had those problems before he didn't think that's whats wrong....He told me it could be something, I can't remember the name, some sickness that people get, and they don't even feel sick...I wish I was more help for you ...Is there anyway you can get to a doctor and at least get some blood tests done? I hope you can get some answers soon

[lex1078]

There can be a reason for multiple m/c's and there can be no reason at all for m/c's. I've learned from my genetics counselor that when women have natural m/c's it's harder to find a reason for the m/c cause no testing was done on the products of conception. If they get D&C's done, then testing is done and a reason can be found. I know some women prefer natural over D&C so don't be upset since no testing could be done. But you should really call your Dr. and have some testing done. If the tests can't find a reason for your losses then it's possible that they were chromosomal abnormalities. I also learned from the genetics counselor that if you have a loss due to chromosomal abnormalities that your chances of it happening again actually go up.

[BuckeyeGal23]

Well I have only had one, but I have read some about them...the fact that you are losing them before 6 weeks kind of raises a red flag for low progesterone to me. Has anyone read the book "A Few Good Eggs"? It's about infertility and one of the main reasons for recurrent miscarriage is low progesterone (and most women don't find out until they've had 3 sequential, which is just torture!). I'd say definitely start with some bloodwork...

[mlyster]

I was just going to add that so far it seems like my issue was low progesterone. I took a supplement through the first trimester of this pregnancy and this is by far the longest one I have had. The problem with low progesterone is that you can't really test it until you are pregnant. CD21 progesterone (what is usually tested) has no bearing on what happens to your progesterone levels when you are pregnant.

Perhaps that is something you doctor will want to explore. My doctor has said it is the first thing he will be trying with all his miscarriage patients because it does seem to be a solution for quite a few people.

[Celena]

Michelle, thanks for posting that... it's good food for thought! You have my wheels turning as well. My RE said if I were to get pg any time before we've done all the testing she'd put me on progesterone and monitor hormonal levels. I'm really really wondering if that's what would turn up here too?

Our bodies go thru changes thru the years and that can answer allot of ladies questions about recurrent losses and it's something so simple, but I don't understand why they don't just test for that every new pregnancy and could eliminate a lady going thru multiple losses before they find it.

BTW, You're awesome!

[ldovey83]

I've been wondering if it was a progestrone issue.. I asked my Dr last time if he could test it and he refused to at that time.. I have read about a few other Mirena IUD users having this problem and one of the ladies bought the over the counter progestrone cream and she got pregnant and carried that baby to full term.. When my nurse calls back today I am going to ask her about that and give it a shot and if for some reason I do get pregnant and miscarry again I will have to look into other fields.. AS for the testing now I do not currently have insurance that will cover that kind of testing.. I am waiting for DH's enrollment to come along again so I can get the prenatal coverage and get some testing done.. I don't know anything about the progestrone creme but I am going to do some research on it.. This time I was doing so much better. I wasn't drinking any caffine I was taking my vitamins and folic acid to make sure I was getting the recommended 800 mg that comes in a prenatal.. I just don't get it..

[Lex&angels]

My doctor put me on progesterone already starting 3 DPO until 13 DPO if the test is negative (my LP is normally 12 days) and she thinks it could help. I m/cd anyway last time despite the progesterone, so I think she's going to up my dose (morning & night instead of just night).
I'm so sorry for your losses

[mlyster]

Celena - my doctor has decided he will be putting all his miscarriage patients on progesterone after ONE loss. Before one loss there is no justification for the medification and if you have no coverage it can be a tough pill to swallow to pay for it (hahaha you don't swallow it... it's a suppository). I was glad to hear that he was going to be much more proactive with this issue in the future.

Lex - your recurrent miscarriages might not be caused by a progesterone deficiency. Have you had any testing run? My first appointment with my doctor he told me that a lot of doctors are calling 2 miscarriages recurrent instead of waiting for the third. Perhaps your doctor can do some testing for you.

Lindsey - go with your gut. I should have pushed harder. After my second miscarriage I asked my doctor about a progesterone deficiency (different than my current doctor) and she dismissed it becuase I had no "signs" of progesterone deficiency. If I had pushed harder I might have saved myself 2 more losses. Maybe not but I would not have any what if thoughts about those 2. Ask your doctor about prometrium and if it is an option for you. Testing is almost too late since you have to test WHILE you are pregnant and either get a low progesterone number ( too late if it is already too low) or get 2 results back that show progesterone dropping. That is why my current doctor does not test for it, just treats for it.

If any of you have any more questions I will be happy to answer them. I have not been spending too much time on this board (at least not responding but I have been lurking) but I will make a point to stop in more often!

[ldovey83]

I'm upset cause I talked to my Dr's nurse and she said the definitely want me to come in for the testing, but I told her I don't have insurance and can't until I get coverage.. I asked her about the progestrone and she said they can't until they do testing. I told her that I brought it up lastnight and I was blown off and after waiting almost 9 months to get pregnant again I miscarried again and it is not fair and very painful to go through 3 when you k now something is not right.. She told me not to do the over the counter progestrone cause I might need a certain dosage and I told her how could they know unless I am pregnant cause I temp I see temp changes when I ovulate.. It is when I pregnant that I don't....So I think regardless of what she said I might try it.. I might look into it..

[zkat]

Lindsey,

When is your DH's enrollment? If it is Jan. - would your doctor work out payments with you? The waiting sucks, we did it last year. My Endo ordered my loss panel after 1 loss (looking for Lupus) in Sept., but my insurance wouldn't cover it and it was $800. We waited until Jan when I could change to DH's and it was covered 100%, well worth the wait.

Also, don't let your doctor "rule out" things because you have had one successful pregnancy. I know a couple of ladies that carried their first with no problems, but were then diagnosed with clotting disorders when they had recurrent losses in their next pregnancies

This pregnancy my doctor had me come in as soon as I got my bfp and she tested my hcg and progesterone. In the meantime, while waiting on my progesterone results, she had me on supplement progestrone, just in case. She felt if it was low, it would be too late by the time the results came back.

I am praying that you get some answers soon. My heart was broken with one miscarriage, I cannot imagine the pain that you have with three.

Kat.

[ldovey83]

I don't know if it is going to be January but it very well might be.. I just don't want to wait that long... I have wanted this for so long but I also can't stand to keep loosing my babies.. I guess we will just see.. I can ask them about payment plans but they probably don't..

[Trish36]

HUGS!!!! Unless you get some testing done you will never truly know what is causing your recurrent m/c. There could be so many reasons.
I had 3 perfect pregnancies and then all of a sudden had 3 losses in one year. That was mind boggling. After getting a ton of blood work done, my dr. determined that it was due to advanced maternal age and poor egg quality. That was my diagnosis.
I hope that the progesterone cream will help, but I would definitely push your dr. to get some major testing done, or even find a new dr. who will do it.

[ldovey83]

My Dr will do the testing I have to wait till Jan to get the testing when I will have new insurance coverage that will hopfully cover the testing.. That is my problem..

[~Lynda~]

if progesterone is perhaps a problem, you can take progesterone supplements after confirmation of Oing. but you have to chart and temp or have a dr. confirm to make sure you O, because starting progesterone will indicate to your body that it's O'd already, and if you haven't yet, then you won't. but progesterone to be effective in preventing loss, has to be started very early. I was starting progesterone after getting a positive pregnancy test, only to miscarry. I will now be taking progesterone after I O to prevent miscarriages. I have had 4 miscarriages and they have done all the testing and have found NOTHING wrong. It's so frustrating! hugs