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November 8th, 2010, 07:16 AM
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I'm hoping someone can be of some assistance to me with their own experiences.
I started TTC April 2008. After having issues with my OV days. I finally got the Ov Sticks and found out my day was day 9 in my cycle. The following month, I was pregnnt. I carried to full term with no even so much as a hiccup. My dating was bang on, he was healthy and I never had anything other then regular checkups.
Then when I was 6 Months PP I got unexpectedly pregnant. I went in as per my GP's advice for bloodwork then for a u/s for dating. (As it was a total surprise)
After I was about 8-9 weeks pregnant I felt like there was something wrong. Just a feeling nothing more. The u/s was a week or so later and while there she asked me how far I think I am I told her 9.5 weeks. She told he baby is showing around 5.5 weeks. It was totally 100% impossible as we wern't sexually active for that date to work, also he was away (military). My doctor seemed to think I was m/cing and I did a week or 2 later. Very Very painful. At home bymyself while looking after a 7 month old.
My husband came home as soon as he possibly could. It helped to have him but didn't change anything. We were heartbroken.
We were told to wait 3 months. So we did. In May I got pregnant and it turned out it was a chemical pregnancy. In July/August I was also pregnant, a chemical or spontaneous miscarriage. Now here I am in November. 4 weeks and 4 days pregnant and seemingly miscarrying again.
Does it not sound to anyone reading this like there is an issue?
My GP seems to think it's completely normal. To me.. if I had problems in the beginning that would be my thoughts too, but with no issues.. it leads me to believe something changed?
Is it possible to have something like Hostile Uterus? I;ve heard of it and I'm wondering if something happened and thats my problem. Or if my system has decided all babies are foreign and disreguarding them.
i'm totally heartbroken and so is my family. I am asking to be refered to a specialist today but I am convinced my GP is going to say I am nuts.
I really dont think I am.
There is definately something wrong.
I can get pregnant. This was the 4th time. I just can't carry them.
Thanks for any info ladies!
PS I'm in Canada, and they do stuff very differently here. Until you are 12 weeks they basically say .. "good luck" here in Nova Scotia
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November 8th, 2010, 08:17 AM
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Wow your position sounds very similar to mine.. I got pregnant with my son and didn't have any problems what so ever... The only thing was that he was breech and I had to have a csection.. Then I had the IUD Mirena put in, and in Jan 2009 I removed it, and started working on baby #2.. I got pregnant in May 09 and miscarried that one at 5wks 6 days.. Waited one cycle and got pregnant in Aug 09.. Lost that one at 5 wks 6 days.. That one I didn't shed fully so I wound up retaining tissue and my DR's thought it was eptopic.. I did a round of methotrexate... I was told to wait 3 months so I did, and then waited a little longer.. Got pregnant in May 2010.. Miscarried that one at 4 wks 3 days... Got pregnant again this last time in July2010. Miscarried in Aug 2010 at 5 wks 6 days.. So I totally understand.. I am currently WTTC for medical reasons. I want to have some of the testing done.. If you have a chance to see a specialist definitely do it.. Don't give up though.. STay strong.. Being pregnant after a loss definitely isn't easy, but try to enjoy what you can, and relax..
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November 8th, 2010, 08:40 AM
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Wow! They are similar! So sorry for your loss'. Those beautiful angels are watching over though! So you haven't had any testing done yet then?
I'm wondering where they'd even start. i had blood drawn Friday could they tell anything from that? I never had to have a d&c but It was more painful then my unmedicated labor in my opinion. Thats for sure!
Not something I want to repeat.
Does your Doc think it's just normal, and you are in that % of m/c's?
Hope you get a stickybean soon!
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November 8th, 2010, 10:21 AM
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Im sorry for your losses, I can not understand why your Dr thinks losing 3 pregnancies is ok! I am in canada as well, and after my loss (the 1st loss was 14 years before my 2nd, and I had children in between, so they do not consider me as having recurrent m/c.), and then trying for 7 months, I was referred to a Reproductive Endocrinologist at NewLife Fertility Centre. You may have one in your province as well. It took 3 months to get an appointment with them. I know with my Dr all I have to do is tell him what I want and where I want to be referred.. There should be testing done to see why you are losing babies. If it were me I would tell my Dr that although HE may not be concerned, You are, and you would like some answers as to why this keeps happening. Good luck, I hope you get some answers!
ETA- I have found that in Canada we have to be very proactive in our health care. If you want something you have to demand it, and dont take no for an answer. Even for things like blood work and ultrasounds. If you ask, and tell them why, most often unless they can guarantee you that nothing is wrong (which they cant) they will accomodate you.
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November 8th, 2010, 10:27 AM
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I'm so sorry for all you've been through!
I agree, it is not okay for a doctor to let someone continue to lose precious little ones without investigating the cause. I would try to get in to see a specialist and get some testing done to look for causes of recurrent miscarriage.
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November 8th, 2010, 01:40 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AlexandersMommy
Wow! They are similar! So sorry for your loss'. Those beautiful angels are watching over though! So you haven't had any testing done yet then?
I'm wondering where they'd even start. i had blood drawn Friday could they tell anything from that? I never had to have a d&c but It was more painful then my unmedicated labor in my opinion. Thats for sure!
Not something I want to repeat.
Does your Doc think it's just normal, and you are in that % of m/c's?
Hope you get a stickybean soon!
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I'm sorry for your losses too. I ment to write that, but looks like I forgot too.. I'm sorry.. I havn't had any testing done as of yet.. I am waiting to get insurance on me.. Most Dr's start with blood work, and even though you had blood work if they didn't draw blood for a specific test then they will have to draw more.. I don't know if I miss understood, but are you for sure miscarrying this pregnancy now? Cause if that is the case then you would've lost 4 not 3.. I was just a little confused in your original post, and the thing about the D&C.. Definitely push for what you feel you should do.. Alot of Dr's won't do anything until you mention it, but that many losses in a row should be looked into.. HUGS hun.. Good luck to you. I hope you get your sticky bean too.. Oh and My Dr thinks that there is something wrong and wants to do the testing, but I can't afford it out of pocket so I am waiting for my insurance benifits to start..
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November 8th, 2010, 02:22 PM
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If your doctor acts like you're crazy, find a new doctor. Find someone you're comfortable with and who will listen. I would for sure ask for further testing.
A few years ago, when I was pregnant, there was a woman on the pregnancy board I was on then. She miscarried 4 times in a row. It was especially odd because she had a daughter, with no problems. They did testing and discovered that her body rejected male fetuses. Every time she was pregnant with a boy, she miscarried by 14 weeks. Later, she went on to have a healthy little girl. Don't know if this helps, but sometimes knowledge is power.
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November 8th, 2010, 03:23 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ldovey83
I'm sorry for your losses too. I ment to write that, but looks like I forgot too.. I'm sorry.. I havn't had any testing done as of yet.. I am waiting to get insurance on me.. Most Dr's start with blood work, and even though you had blood work if they didn't draw blood for a specific test then they will have to draw more.. I don't know if I miss understood, but are you for sure miscarrying this pregnancy now? Cause if that is the case then you would've lost 4 not 3.. I was just a little confused in your original post, and the thing about the D&C.. Definitely push for what you feel you should do.. Alot of Dr's won't do anything until you mention it, but that many losses in a row should be looked into.. HUGS hun.. Good luck to you. I hope you get your sticky bean too.. Oh and My Dr thinks that there is something wrong and wants to do the testing, but I can't afford it out of pocket so I am waiting for my insurance benifits to start..
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Thanks! no worries! I am m/c now. today  but One was a chemical pregnancy so really I can only say 3 were actual miscarriages!
Ohh i understand! Hope testing can start soon!
I can say I am lucky in the way of free canadian benefits, but free comes with a price of crappy care sometimes. I am switching doctors after i get this referal. I'd switch now but then have to re-explain everything to the new doc.
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November 8th, 2010, 03:29 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mom2moose
If your doctor acts like you're crazy, find a new doctor. Find someone you're comfortable with and who will listen. I would for sure ask for further testing.
A few years ago, when I was pregnant, there was a woman on the pregnancy board I was on then. She miscarried 4 times in a row. It was especially odd because she had a daughter, with no problems. They did testing and discovered that her body rejected male fetuses. Every time she was pregnant with a boy, she miscarried by 14 weeks. Later, she went on to have a healthy little girl. Don't know if this helps, but sometimes knowledge is power.
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You know what. My mother in law is here visiting and she had that exact same scenerio for me only obviously opposite as I have a boy now..
It seems odd tho where my timings are all over the place but I'd swear the first baby I m/c'd was a girl. LOL (I had a feeling aabout DS right from the get go and was right) but since i dunno..
Maybe thatts it.. although 3 of them being girls.. would be odd.. and the 4th the chemical pregnancy... i'm at a loss with that cause too.
I'm definately happy I will be seeing a specialialist soon, but I am also changing doctors after this referal!
Thanks for that info!
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November 8th, 2010, 03:43 PM
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Its really interesting about the body rejecting a certain gender, I wondered about that when I had my first m/c and then when I had my twin girls, I wondered if it had something to do with the additional hormones that allowed me to carry them.
With my last m/c I was almost positive that I was going to have a girl. I really wonder about that... is it something they can test for?
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November 8th, 2010, 03:44 PM
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I have not read the other posts...so sorry if I repeat something or sound stupid based on other info...
But I have had almost the EXACT same experience over the past 7 months. I had my son in October of 2009 (a completely uneventful pregnancy) and I also got pregnant when he was 7 months (in May). I had a horrendous miscarriage and D & C in July after losing the heartbeat at 9 weeks (about). Since then, I have had three early miscarriages in a row (Aug, Sept, and Oct). Thankfully my doctor DOES recognize that there is something wrong and we have a specialist appt on November 19th. That is not normal and to be expected. I would demand something be done, given you are actively trying to concieve and have watched spontaneous miscarriages happen three times in a row. It at least merits some bloodwork or futher research into what might be causing it. This last time, my doc was willing to try progesterone therapy...it didn't work...but I was glad he was trying and not just sitting back and letting it happen repeatedly. I don't really have any "answers" for you, but I would be willing to let you know how my appt goes, given we have similar experiences and it might help point you to some causes of repeated lost pregnancies. If that helps at all. I know when you are in that place, you will do ANYTHING to prevent that miscarriage. And how hard it is when you see that positive and just "know" something is going to make it go south. So sorry for all your losses
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November 8th, 2010, 04:34 PM
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I had my son July '09. Everything was super easy, and uneventful. I was pregnant again when he was 6 months old, and we lost that baby. Then I was pregnant the following month, and we lost that baby at 10 weeks. We waited a month, then tried again. I am currently 24 weeks pregnant with a healthy girl. I just wanted to give you some hope that sometimes things like this happen (I also did not have any testing, but would have pushed for some if I lost this one too).
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November 8th, 2010, 05:14 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ashj_1218
I have not read the other posts...so sorry if I repeat something or sound stupid based on other info...
But I have had almost the EXACT same experience over the past 7 months. I had my son in October of 2009 (a completely uneventful pregnancy) and I also got pregnant when he was 7 months (in May). I had a horrendous miscarriage and D & C in July after losing the heartbeat at 9 weeks (about). Since then, I have had three early miscarriages in a row (Aug, Sept, and Oct). Thankfully my doctor DOES recognize that there is something wrong and we have a specialist appt on November 19th. That is not normal and to be expected. I would demand something be done, given you are actively trying to concieve and have watched spontaneous miscarriages happen three times in a row. It at least merits some bloodwork or futher research into what might be causing it. This last time, my doc was willing to try progesterone therapy...it didn't work...but I was glad he was trying and not just sitting back and letting it happen repeatedly. I don't really have any "answers" for you, but I would be willing to let you know how my appt goes, given we have similar experiences and it might help point you to some causes of repeated lost pregnancies. If that helps at all. I know when you are in that place, you will do ANYTHING to prevent that miscarriage. And how hard it is when you see that positive and just "know" something is going to make it go south. So sorry for all your losses 
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WOW! very similar indeed! I am sorry for your losses as well. I would love to know how everything goes with your appointments! I think the progesterone is going to be their first course of action or sure.
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I had my son July '09. Everything was super easy, and uneventful. I was pregnant again when he was 6 months old, and we lost that baby. Then I was pregnant the following month, and we lost that baby at 10 weeks. We waited a month, then tried again. I am currently 24 weeks pregnant with a healthy girl. I just wanted to give you some hope that sometimes things like this happen (I also did not have any testing, but would have pushed for some if I lost this one too).
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Lauren, our 1st LO's are the same age! Same PR! Congrats on your healthy preg! Sorry for your loss' !
I hope you have a happy pregnancy! It does give me hope. Although today i'm not so sure I am feeling it!
I dont think we'll stop trying. Probably just let it happen. I am an earlier teller... and I think we're going to keep our mouth's shut from now on. We get excited and everyone else's excitement makes us more excited which only makes the loss' worse!
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November 8th, 2010, 08:20 PM
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I'm so sorry you're going through this again.. 
I'm also sorry you're not getting great care.. I'm in Canada too but I have had no problems in that department. After 2 back to back m/c I was referred to a specialist and got in within 2 weeks and had my first RE appt the day after my D&C. I hope your doctor will listen to you!!
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November 8th, 2010, 08:46 PM
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I'm still really new here (had my first m/c last Thursday), and just wanted to say how sorry I am for all you've been through. I honestly can't imagine how painful it's been. But I agree w/ the PPs - it can't just be "normal" to go through what you have. I would definitely push for any answers that might be out there - I don't know anything about the healthcare system in Canada, but even here in the US you really have to take charge of your own care. I hope you're able to get in to see someone who can find some answers and prevent this from happening again. T&P are with you right now - my heart just breaks for you!
(((hugs)))
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November 8th, 2010, 10:34 PM
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Sending  your way! Seems like there are a few of us here from the July 2011 DDC.
Liam's mom -  to you too.
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November 9th, 2010, 07:24 AM
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I think there are a lot more people like you than you might think. Sad but true. I had 9 perfect uneventful pregnancies with nine beautiful children...and then 4 miscarriages in a row. My doc started the testing after the third one. I say get loud and insist on more tests and try for sure answers. The advice the other ladies have had is really good.....keep listening!
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