Back from the RE...pretty good news all around

ashj_1218 · #1 November 19th, 2010, 04:36 PM

Hey ladies, thought I would update on how my appt went (I did a brief summary in the 2WW section). We had our consultation and it was good. At first I disliked the doc, he was really blunt and said "pregnancies that early are not really losses, since they were not confirmed with ultrasound. We call them biochemical and they don't count." I was like, uh, they count to me...three times in a row is enough!! But then later in the appt he did say it was weird that the HCG was increasing every month in both blood and urine, making the possibility of a false positive test completely nil (since it was on both). So he did recognize the emotional toll and how it is strange for anyone to do this. He said he has never run into this before. He said if he got my case history on his boards, his first thought would be that I had uterus scarring or issues and he is going with that for a starting point. Between the IUD and the D & E he wonders if there is damage in there and nothing can implant on that scar tissue.

He scheduled me for:

Baseline HCG and uterine sonogram on CD3
An HSG (dye into the uterus to check the tubes/uterus) on CD7
A mock transfer: A saline in the uterus test that shows the uterus better (not sure what that is called, I am too lazy to get up and look at the sheet) on CD7
Complete hormone panel on CD3 and CD7
Lupus testing on CD3
A karotype on me and hubby (whenever)

So I am gonna have all kinds of fun the week of CD3-CD10!! Lol. But I don't mind. Since we did still try this month, if I don't have my period by CD32 (pretty long for me), I need to go in for a "lack of menses" and they will check for pregnancy and if I am not, I will get Provera to bring it on for testing. So not too bad news all around. I can't get too upset even if I am not pregnant this month (some parts of me doesn't want to be, since I almost guarantee it will happen again). I know I will at least have some answers, even if nothing is wrong, and can move on from there. Thanks for being such great supports

I really do love the ladies in this room

asunflower · #2 November 19th, 2010, 04:40 PM

Who did you go to see? I see you are in MD. I am too and went to Shady Grove. I am in a similar situation but did all the testing and came back fine. I have been doing some research on RPL after having a boy. There is some research out there that I am looking at and wondering about. Now I see you are in the same boat. I have had 6 miscarriages in a row.

ashj_1218 · #3 November 19th, 2010, 04:46 PM

Yup...Shady Grove in Annapolis is where we went. I would be curious as to that research. I wonder what that is all about? This boat sucks...can we get a new one?? Lol.

missy123 · #4 November 19th, 2010, 04:48 PM

Sounds like a great 1st appointment. The tests they want to run are mostly what they did with me except my RE did the clomid challenge test the first month.

Take a couple of pain meds before the saline test. The test itself does not hurt but the tube going in smarts a little. It wasn't too bad and it was cool to see my insides on the ultrasound.

Keep us updated, a lot of us have been through the same experiences and can help you with questions. Very exciting for you!!

Joanna1127 · #5 November 19th, 2010, 04:50 PM

sounds like a good appt!

asunflower · #6 November 19th, 2010, 04:54 PM

I will see if I can pull them back up and send them to you. Did you see McKeeby? I want to share the research with him and see what he says. I mentioned it to him in April but seemed to dismiss it. I have had 2 more miscarriages since then so I am really curious now.

asunflower · #7 November 19th, 2010, 05:35 PM

Women are more likely to suffer recurrent miscarriages if their first child is a boy

First Born Boys May Increase Risk of Miscarriage

These are just two links that I have looked at but there are more out there. I just do not know how to present this info. to the Dr. to see if they would be willing to look into it further.

ohnicole · #8 November 19th, 2010, 09:28 PM

I'm glad the appointment went well

I hope all the tests go smoothly. KUP!

BeccaM · #9 November 20th, 2010, 04:41 AM

Ash Im happy the appointment went well. I hope they are able to find some answers for you.

luvmykids623 · #10 November 20th, 2010, 04:53 AM

Sounds like a great appt other than the dr being a jerk in the beginning. I hope they're able to give you some answers!

ashj_1218 · #11 November 20th, 2010, 06:16 AM

Thanks ladies. I really do hope I get some answers, even if it means there are no treatments that would help or that we don't even know what treatments to try. I am willing to keep playing the odds and hoping we have a healthy sticky bean!

And yes, I did see Dr. McKeeby. He was jerky to start, but got better. They don't call mine RPL, since I have not had the sonograms to back up the tests. He called it Reoccurent Biochemical Pregnancies. Which is fine, but it all means the same thing to me.

That research is interesting. I can't say I am fully on board with that hypothosis. Because essentially I know tons and tons of people who have boys first and had no issue concieving a second baby (or more). It seems like this would be more common if that were what happens. Don't you think? Not that it is incorrect, just seems a little hard to fully accept. But it also follows the assumption that all of our pregnancy losses have been boys (since the research shows that girl fetuses do not produce HY antigens and success might be had with IVF and gender selection). Not saying that it is impossible. But it seems pretty rare that between the two of us we miscarried 10 boys and no girls. Naturally, if I was offered the antigen shots, I would take them if they had no ill effects. With all this stuff it is such a crapshoot as to what will work and what will fail. It is so frustrating!

I would love to know what the doc thinks of that, since he seems pretty opinionated (he told me that luteal phase defect does not exist!). I am sure he would listen though, given your history of miscarriages and how hard that must be emotionally (even though he does not seem concerned with emotional aspects).

Thank you for sharing that reading. I will certainly keep it in mind and even mention it to my doc if it comes to that. At this point, I just can't help but thinking that we will never have the family I dreamed of and that hurts. I will do anything to be able to have a couple siblings for Liam.

MeganMomof5 · #12 November 20th, 2010, 09:02 AM

I'm glad you had a good appointment...I hope you get some answers with all your tests!!! GL

asunflower · #13 November 21st, 2010, 10:19 AM

I agree with you about McKeeby. I worked with him through my 4 failed IVF cycles as well. So I am just to the point that I am ready to try anything. I am trying a few more times on my own and if that does not work, I might hit him with the research. Good luck and let us know how your tests turn out.

ashj_1218 · #14 November 21st, 2010, 05:19 PM

^^Lol. I am glad I am not off base in that point. I felt like he was telling me I was "wrong" for being there. But thankfully he sorta made up for it by mentioning he had never seen that happen before (my losses are all way early and the hormones barely rise) and he would like to look into it. I would be interested to know how he reacts to the research. I might be where you are in a year or two if I am still not having luck. You get to that point where you will do ANYTHING to have a little one. I am so sorry you are at the end of that rope. I think you have every right to bring that research to light...he may shoot it down...but he has to recognize that it is out there and MIGHT be a real issue for the rare few.

I have been thinking a lot about it. And it makes me so sad, thinking that it might never happen again for me. If that is really what is going on, then it would take a lot for me to have another baby. If anyone even figures it out. I guess it is normal to feel scared about that stuff. Does that research make you less hopeful as well? Or am I just reading it wrong?