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December 1st, 2010, 06:47 AM
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Ok what is this soy you guys keep talking about?
Do you need a script for it or is it a vitiamin you can go buy?
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December 1st, 2010, 07:38 AM
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Celena is the expert on it 
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December 1st, 2010, 08:17 AM
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It is soy Isofalvones. It is not prescription and you can buy it at Walmart or any vitamin shop. It costs around $6 per bottle. It acts like clomid only the side effects are not as harsh. You take it either cd 3-7 or cd 5-9 only, just like clomid. Hope that helps!
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December 1st, 2010, 09:10 AM
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Thank you... If I do not get my BFP this month I might try it.
I am also going to BBT next month to see if I really do ovulate since I am getting weird OPK's.
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December 1st, 2010, 12:33 PM
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It worked for me! I took it this month after our loss and we got pregnant! I took 200 mg on days 3 - 7. I don't know if the soy is the reason, as all 4 of our pregnancies have been 1st month trying, but after a loss, I figured it would take months to get back to normal and figured it wouldn't hurt to try the soy.
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December 1st, 2010, 12:42 PM
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Thinking of getting some tonight! I was debating it because of my thyroid, BUT it is still hotly debated as being good/bad for it. Figured a month or too while TTC can't screw it up too much.
Hope Walgreens has it!
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December 1st, 2010, 02:43 PM
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What have you heard about it being bad for your thyroid? I just ask because I don't have a thyroid, and I was thinking of taking it next cycle...Also, what says are best to take it? I know you only take it for 5 days a cycle, but i've seen different day combo's, also the mg, how do you know which mg to take?
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December 1st, 2010, 03:01 PM
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I took it this cycle right after a chemical. They say soy is half of what clomid would be so if you would take 50mg of clomid, you'd need 100 of soy. I started out on that. If you take it days 1-5 it's supposed to help egg production, like making more than one. Days 5-9 are supposed to help mature the egg. That's why you see most people taking it days 3-7 because it's in between. I have borderline hyperthyroid and it didn't do anything. I don't think I was taking it long enough to really effect my thyroid at all.
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December 1st, 2010, 03:04 PM
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I don't know anything about the Throid part, sorry. I hope someone can help with that.
The doseage is a personal choice. Everyone says take double the amount of the Clomid you were taking. I took 100mg of Clomid so I took 200mg of soy. Also the days are like clomid, the earlier in your cycle you take it the more follies and the later you take it the better quality follies. I took mine cd 3-7 because I have 24 day cycles so I thought earlier would be better.
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December 1st, 2010, 04:44 PM
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This is good to know. If this isn't our month, I may try it next cycle too.
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December 1st, 2010, 06:23 PM
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I plan on trying it this cycle CD5-9 and see what happens. So is the bottle you buy at like Walmart or Walgreens actually called soy isoflavones or is the name brand something different?
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December 1st, 2010, 07:39 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KCMomma
I plan on trying it this cycle CD5-9 and see what happens. So is the bottle you buy at like Walmart or Walgreens actually called soy isoflavones or is the name brand something different?
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It'll say Soy Isoflavones really big on the front of the bottle. It's a yellow bottle with a green lid if I remember right.
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December 1st, 2010, 07:40 PM
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Hi Gwen -
Yes, It is called Soy Isoflavones it comes in 40mg tablets at Walmart and the brand is Spring Valley. It costs around $6.
I found it online for you, here you go!
Walmart.com: Search Results for "soy isoflavones"
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December 1st, 2010, 08:24 PM
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Oh thankyou so much!!!! Going to grab them tomorrow...i'm on CD 4 tomorrow
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December 1st, 2010, 09:40 PM
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The ones I bought at wal-mart were 50mg. I found them in the menopause section 
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December 2nd, 2010, 07:52 AM
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The ones I bought at wal-mart were 50mg. I found them in the menopause section |
There's a menopause section????
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December 2nd, 2010, 10:13 AM
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Well, you were right...there IS a menopause section!!! HAHA, I never noticed that before! Anyway, picked mine up today and will start tomorrow...now I was never on clomid so what should I take? And I've heard to take them at night, is that right? Planning on taking them CD 5-9, I normally have a 32 day cycle so we will see. I'm thinking I'll take 2 pills each day since they are 40mg each...would that be right?
PS So sorry to hijack your thread this this...
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December 2nd, 2010, 10:17 AM
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I'm so glad to hear about the difference between taking it for multiples vs taking it to help mature an egg. I wanted to try soy but everything I read said it increases your chances of multiples, and I don't want multiples. (Actually I'd LOVE multiples if I knew I could carry them to term, but since I had Drew at 37w1d, I doubt twins would stand a chance. Plus my aunt miscarried twins once and I don't want to do anything to increase the chances of complications, and since twin pregnancies are automatically considered high risk...) I might try 80-100mg next cycle on days 5-9 if I don't get my BFP in a week.
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Jan. 2009: Came off years of BCP and started TTC
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Feb. 2012: Same regimen of Clomid and other meds, add IUI. 2 eggs and 8.5 million swimmers. BFN.
March 2012: 75 IU Follistim CD 3-11, follie scan CD 8 showed 6 follies likely to mature. Triggered, IUI on CD 14, 4 million swimmers. BFN.
April 2012: 75 IU Follistim CD 3-10. Scan showed 2 mature follies, 2 almost certain to mature, and two not likely but possible. (All 6 evenly and perfectly spaced out between the left and the right.) Triggered, IUI CD 13 with 5 million swimmers. BFN.
May 2012: 75 IU Follistim starting CD 3. Waiting to O. Timed intercourse. Likely 5 follies to mature.
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December 2nd, 2010, 11:40 AM
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I took the plunge and started last night- CD3. Going to go through Cycle day 5 I think.
On they thyroid there is research out there on both sides of the issue that soy can mess up the thyroid glads production on both the T4 and T3 side.
I finally decided it's not like I'm planning on taking it every day!
Oh and I went with 160 mg, since I have taken 100 mg of clomid in the past but also didn't want to over due it either.
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December 2nd, 2010, 04:20 PM
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Jordana Jacoby & Jamason
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Originally Posted by KCMomma
Well, you were right...there IS a menopause section!!! HAHA, I never noticed that before! Anyway, picked mine up today and will start tomorrow...now I was never on clomid so what should I take? And I've heard to take them at night, is that right? Planning on taking them CD 5-9, I normally have a 32 day cycle so we will see. I'm thinking I'll take 2 pills each day since they are 40mg each...would that be right?
PS So sorry to hijack your thread this this...
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I've read that many women start at 80 mg. I went straight to 200 though. I've read of women taking anything between those 2 doses.
I took them right before bed. I read that would help with the side effects and i didn't have any, even though I took the max dose, so I'm assuming taking them at night helped with that 
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Originally Posted by *SamF*
I took the plunge and started last night- CD3. Going to go through Cycle day 5 I think.
On they thyroid there is research out there on both sides of the issue that soy can mess up the thyroid glads production on both the T4 and T3 side.
I finally decided it's not like I'm planning on taking it every day!
Oh and I went with 160 mg, since I have taken 100 mg of clomid in the past but also didn't want to over due it either.
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I read that you're supposed to take them for 5 days right? So wouldn't you want to do CD 3 - 7? Those are the days I did anyway.
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