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December 17th, 2010, 08:48 AM
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Okay i'm getting desperate, but i'm not sure what i'm going to do.
I'm toying with taking soy, but I keep going back and forth on if I should take it...I picked some up at walmart a few days ago.
Will soy mess up your cycle? I think that's my biggest concern...My cycle seems to be messed up anyway, i'm just scared i'm going to mess it up more...Also, i'm not sure how much I should take....I was thinking 80mg, but i'm worried that wont do anything...I'm also thinking of doing it CD 3-7...For those of you who took it, what was your experiance on it? and also if you got pregnant taking soy i'd like to hear about it too...Does soy usually bring ovulation sooner, or later?
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December 17th, 2010, 08:55 AM
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Megan! I missed you
I took 80 mg CD3-7 one cycle and 160 mg CD 3-7 another cycle. It didn't really change my O time, but messed up my fertility signs and I found it frustrating enough to stop. It just didn't agree with me. BUT so many ladies like it. I know that most have had better success taking it on CD5-9, and it seems like it might move O up a couple days if you do it that way. Did your doctor recommend Clomid? Or just supplementing the progesterone? With your last couple cycles, I'd almost be tempted to do a cycle with nothing extra except the baby aspirin and progesterone after O and see how that works.
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December 17th, 2010, 08:58 AM
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Hi Megan,
I would go up to 120mg cd 3-7. From my experience, soy did not mess with my cycle at all. I o'ed on time and I did not have the side effects that I did taking clomid. Celena is pregnant now from Soy and there are a bunch of success stories in here.
It is a personal choice weather to take it or not. If you are afraid then I would say don't do it. TTC is stressful enough.
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December 17th, 2010, 09:00 AM
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I think she's going to try progesterone for now...I asked the nurse what the next step was if it doesn't work, but she didn't know...I assume that since she put 2 refills on the progesterone that she wants me to try it for 3 cycles?
I was thinking of just doing nothing this cycle too...My concern is that I ovulated late last month, and I honestly think something was wrong...AF was way late, it just started today...So I had a 31 day cycle and that's not normal for me at all...I still have a couple of days to think about it...I do know that when she brought up clomid that she said CD 5-9.
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December 17th, 2010, 09:04 AM
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Good luck with whatever you decide, Megan. I know how hard it can be to make these decisions  I am really hopeful that the progesterone is going to be just what you need to get your BFP this cycle
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December 17th, 2010, 09:04 AM
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How long is a normal cycle for you?
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December 17th, 2010, 09:16 AM
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Megan, I took 120 mg cd 3-7 in November and as you know we got pregnant although we did end up m/c. We were told that we wouldn't be able to get pregnant on our own and we did. We were told that our best chances of gettting pregnant was another IUI.
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December 17th, 2010, 09:31 AM
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I took 80 mg of soy for two cycles on CD 2 - 6 and got BFPs both cycles, but I also miscarried both. Not sure if the soy had anything to do with that since I've never gotten a BFP WITHOUT soy, but it is definitely something I am going to talk to my dr about once we can TTC again. We tried au natural for 5 cycles, all BFNs until I added soy, and with my age and everything, I'm worried that the soy caused my body to O a poor quality egg. Twice. Who knows though!
Taking soy moved my O date up 5 or 6 days - I usually O around CD 17 or 18, and on my soy cycles I O'ed on CD 12 -13. I also noticed stronger O pain on my soy cycles.
GL with whatever you decide!
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December 17th, 2010, 11:14 AM
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Megan I took Soy for 2 cycles. I originally was on Clomid and they say to double the dosage so my first month I took 200mg of Soy CD 5-9 I believe... My second month I took 280mg CD 4-8 and got my BFP that cycle. Soy didnt really mess with my cycles any. I had been O'ing between CD 14-17 and stayed on track with that. I hope it works for you!!!
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December 17th, 2010, 11:26 AM
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I took soy too days 3-7. I took 100mg but I've heard a lot of ladies start out on a higher dose. I usually O anywhere from day 17-20 and the soy seemed to move my O date up, but now with an u/s I wonder if it really did. I didn't notice anything different except my O symptoms were harder to pin point. I hope this is your cycle.
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December 17th, 2010, 11:30 AM
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I'm Oing earlier than normal this cycle with 80mg Soy CD 4-8. Of course I don't know if it's the soy, the FertilAid, or having had Drew and having a full system reboot... No complaints here though, and I'll continue to try again with it next cycle if we don't get our BFP this time around. Toying with maybe using 120mg next time, not sure...
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Jan. 2009: Came off years of BCP and started TTC
March 2010: BFP -- finally!
Oct. 22, 2010: Drew is born, but has to stay in the NICU because of cord complications resulting in oxygen deprivation and brain problems =(
Oct. 27, 2010: I held him in my arms while Daddy, Grandma, Great-Uncle and I sang him to sleep =( Hardest thing I've ever done...
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June 25, 2011: Natural miscarriage... Can we please catch a break here?
Nov. 2011: 100mg Clomid followed by 2mg Estrogen, Ovidrel trigger, and 200mg progesterone suppositories 2x/day 14 days. BFN.
Dec. 2011: 2nd medicated cycle. BFN.
Jan. 2012: Took a month off to breathe...
Feb. 2012: Same regimen of Clomid and other meds, add IUI. 2 eggs and 8.5 million swimmers. BFN.
March 2012: 75 IU Follistim CD 3-11, follie scan CD 8 showed 6 follies likely to mature. Triggered, IUI on CD 14, 4 million swimmers. BFN.
April 2012: 75 IU Follistim CD 3-10. Scan showed 2 mature follies, 2 almost certain to mature, and two not likely but possible. (All 6 evenly and perfectly spaced out between the left and the right.) Triggered, IUI CD 13 with 5 million swimmers. BFN.
May 2012: 75 IU Follistim starting CD 3. Waiting to O. Timed intercourse. Likely 5 follies to mature.

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December 17th, 2010, 03:22 PM
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Thanks for the info ladies! i'm still not sure...I have till Sunday before i'm CD 3, so i'm going to do some more reading and thinking about it this weekend.
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December 17th, 2010, 08:42 PM
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Megan,
I took CD5-9 every cycle but 1 where I took it from 3-7 ironically that cycle I O'd way late and had a longer cycle than normal... weird eh? I think we talked about this before, but considering your normal cycle maybe 5-9 would be the way to go for you too.
I started off at 80mg for 1 or 2 cycles (can't remember) then moved up to 160mg which is what I took this cycle on days 5-9 again. I had a REALLY REALLY good ovulation this month 2 days of strong O pains. Made me wonder if I popped out 2 eggs?
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December 17th, 2010, 10:10 PM
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Thanks Celena...Maybe i'll do soy 5-9 since that's what my doctor said she would do clomid on...I just don't want to do anything to mess up my cycle.
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December 18th, 2010, 09:02 AM
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 I hope this is your cycle!
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December 19th, 2010, 07:07 PM
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Did you decide to try the soy or no? (just curious)
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December 19th, 2010, 07:17 PM
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I think i'm going to do 80mg on CD 5-9...I'll start it on tuesday night (as long as I don't change my mind lol)
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December 19th, 2010, 07:48 PM
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LOL, you are always allowed to change your mind. I did not take any soy this month... decided to take a break.
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December 20th, 2010, 03:34 AM
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Good luck Megan! I hope it's just what you need for a sticky BFP!
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December 20th, 2010, 08:15 AM
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I changed my mind and took 80mg last night!
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