[Shadeauxe]

I am having a hard time articulating this because these are not my thoughts but rather my interpretation of what my husband's thoughts are based on a couple of comments he's made.

First a little background. I am not a religious person. I hope that people don't judge me for this. I am a decent person and I am a spiritual person, I just don't believe in any god. My husband was raised Catholic. I know that he does believe in God and considers himself to be very religious, he just doesn't talk to me about it because he knows we have very different opinions.

When we found out about the miscarriage, my response (in my head) was that it just didn't work out and wasn't meant to be. My husband struggled with it more, spiritually, because he didn't know what that meant in terms of the baby's soul. I couldn't really relate because I don't have any theories or ideas about souls. I do believe we have them, but that's about the extent of my thinking on it.

Yesterday, I did tarot card readings for myself about pregnancy and the miscarriage. They turned out pretty interesting and we'll see how it plays out for real. When I showed the pictures of the layout about the miscarriage to my husband, he said that one of the cards was indicative that the miscarriage happened because the body (of the fetus) was no good and that the soul pulled back to wait for a better body.

So, essentially, he believes that the baby that we lost isn't really lost. It will come back to us at some point when the body is able to hold it. I really am not explaining this very well. It's like trying to describe a dream you can't really remember. I just think it's a really interesting thought and I wanted to share it. I am not saying it's how it works for everyone or trying to convince people of anything. However, it does instill a sense of peace in me to think that I haven't really lost anything, I just have to wait a little longer. I hope this makes sense.

Thanks for reading my rambles.

[.:Shortcake:.]

I think this is a good way to view things. There was some story that was posted here awhile back let me see if I can find it!

[.:Shortcake:.]

I can't find it But there was a lady who posted here whose son said that the baby's soul floats around and comes back to you. It was a really sweet story and it reminded me of this

[*SamF*]

It makes sense and is a really nice way of looking at it.

[Joanna1127]

I've heard similar stories like that.

[Erin84]

I haven't had any dreams where Drew has spoken to me, only dreams that he's in, but a couple people I know have had dreams where he speaks directly to them. One of them is my midwife, Susan, who's a very spiritual woman. She said Drew wanted Zach and me to know that he's sorry we hurt, and that he loves us and knows we love him, but that his body would never be the body he wanted so he had to go until he could come back and try again. The particularly strange thing about the dream, was that Drew's heart was very strong when they got it beating after he was born, but that after several days it started to decline. (It actually started pumping blood backwards, which was causing fluid to pool in/around his lungs.) But in Susan's dream, he mentioned that he knew his *heart* would never be strong enough. As far as Susan knew, his heart was strong, because we hadn't spoken to her about his heart problems. She was there with us on the first day, so last she knew, his heart and lungs were our saving grace, the only organs that didn't seem to be affected.

I hope there are souls, because I know Drew's is beautiful, and I truly hope his soul gets another chance. I really hope five days wasn't it for him.

I didn't mean to hijack your thread, just wanted to share what my midwife told me, since it sounds similar to what your husband said.

[Shadeauxe]

@Erin

No worries. That's a great story! I think it fits really well with this. I love hearing stories that can't be explained away with science. I had a friend who passed and came to me in a dream to say goodbye (he died in another country). I know it wasn't "just a dream" and it was very comforting. Thanks for sharing!

[StaceygirlPa]

It makes sense to me. I like this way of thinking.

Erin, Thank you for sharing another story of Drew. I like thinking that their souls will keep on trying until they have a stronger body.

[ashj_1218]

Wow. That is an amazing story Erin. It made me tear up. I hope that it is not "it" for any of our babies. I would love to believe that our babies are just waiting for a more suitable body to live in and will come back to us in one way or another.

I also am not a religious person (nor would I ever hold something like that against someone), but it does sorta make sense that the babies souls might still be around, comforting us and keeping us hoping. It seems that we have had several instances where the babies have communicated through other means to their parents. And I absolutely believe that can happen.

Very interesting stuff.

[purplelady]

thank you for sharing those stories ladies. made me all tear eyed (in a good way). being pagan i have thought a lot on reincarnation and the energies that i believe are our souls. energy never dies it just takes on a new form. i believe that our energy does not disappear when our bodies give out, it is either reborn or moves to a higher level.
when i lost the twins i really struggled with the whys of my loss. about five days after i was sitting up late in bed talking to them and the god and goddess (please no judging being pagan is what feels right for me). i just couldnt wrap my mind around why they were taken from me. it was like someone or something just dropped the answer right into my head. it was like a moment of complete and utter understanding. i got a overwhelming feeling that one i had a lesson to learn about not taking this for granted (this as in the pregnancy, i wasnt happy when we first found out and cried and complained at first, long story ) and that they were not ready for this world yet and need a little more time. i really feel that this was some way of stopping hubby and i from having hubby go in for the big V. we had almost decided that we were done having kids and had been discussing hubby getting the big V for a few months.

erin - i fully believe that those that we have lost, that have yet to be reborn come to us in our dreams. and i am sure your little mans journey is not over yet

shadeauxe - i really think you will see that little soul again . sometimes they give us little clues and sometimes the tell us right out what is planned for us. and it sounds like the soul of your little one is just waiting for a stronger body.
do you do any pendulum work (its my preferred method, but mine seems to be done with me for the moment lol, so i have moved on to playing card tarot readings for a little while )

[Shadeauxe]

I believe the same thing about the transferring of energy. Science agrees. The Law of Conservation of energy states that energy cannot be created or destroyed only transfeered from one form to another.

I'd never heard of the pendulum stuff until Shanise started answering people's questions. I really love the art of the cards that I have (Robin Wood), so I've stuck with that. I've had some really accurate things with it too.

One time, when we were selling our house, I was starting to get obsessive about when it would sell. Two people had looked at it recently and I wanted to know if they would make an offer. I was doing a 5 card layout where the positions were: 1. Question, 2. Background, 3. Seeker, 4. Influencing factor and 5. Outcome.

The first time through, lets say I got cards ABCDE. Then, I put the cards back into the deck in intervals with many cards in between each, so that card A was at the bottom of the deck and card E was near the top. I reshuffled to ask the question again about the second buyer and cards ABC worked their way back together for the second layout, which ended up ABCFG. I thought that was pretty amazing and to me validated the answers.

I've really enjoyed reading people's stories. I have a lot of stories where "weird" things have happened to me, but it would take forever to type them.

[TnPhotoMama81]

Thanks to both of you for sharing those stories. Made me teary eyed as well. I have actually wondered the same thing as well - if maybe our baby would come back to us someday when he/she is ready.

I know this might sound silly, but I had an amazing dream 2 or 3 days before our BFP. It was a very short dream but there was a really beautiful and colorful hummingbird that landed right in my husbands hand....then he handed it to me. The bird actually spoke to me and asked about our family and if they could be a part of it. I just remember it making me feel SO happy/loved and a sense of calmness came over me in the dream. I know it was a bird in the dream but something about it just made me know that this was our month. I just felt like it was a sign from our baby if that makes sense

[Shadeauxe]

Makes sense to me!

[purplelady]

i think we get a lot of messages in our dreams, but they are so easily over looked, because it is hardy ever a straight forward message. you kinda have to read between the lines lol. and it is so easy to misunderstand the message. although i would have to say that the message in your dream was pretty clear

i dreamed of the twins when i was around 7 or 8 weeks along, i think. i did a new meditation dream connection thing with your unborn child, that i found on the net, happy to say it worked, sad to say i totally misunderstood what the message .
i dream that i was in the birthing tub at the birth center i planned to use with my midwives. i gave birth to a little girl but didnt really get a chance to see her before they took her away. next i gave birth to a little boy and he was so small, and i remember thinking boy is he little. i never heard either one cry and i never got to hold them. as i got out pf the tub my dream flipped and my babies had turned into little gray kittens that kept running away form me. see looking back the meaning is very clear, but at the time i just thought it meant i was having boy/girl twins.

[Shadeauxe]

Originally Posted by purplelady

i dream that i was in the birthing tub at the birth center i planned to use with my midwives. i gave birth to a little girl but didnt really get a chance to see her before they took her away. next i gave birth to a little boy and he was so small, and i remember thinking boy is he little. i never heard either one cry and i never got to hold them. as i got out pf the tub my dream flipped and my babies had turned into little gray kittens that kept running away form me. see looking back the meaning is very clear, but at the time i just thought it meant i was having boy/girl twins.

Wow, that's pretty crazy. Not crazy as insane, but the other way (good).

[MeganMomof5]

I read a book this summer called "Spirit babies" (I think that's what it's called) I don't know where it's at or i'd check for sure...I didn't read the whole thing, kind of skimmed it, and in this book it said that spirits of babies do come back after you lost them, and that the spirit of the baby is waiting for the right time...I can't explain it very well, it's been 6 months since I even read it...I'll try to find the book for the exact title.

[TnPhotoMama81]

^^ please do. I am interested.

[MeganMomof5]

here it is

Amazon.com: Spirit Babies: How to Communicate with the Child You're Meant to Have (9780385338127): Walter Makichen: Books

[purplelady]

i will deff. be checking that book out thanks hun.

[angel3y35]

I had something kind of along those lines. My high school / first year of college sweetheart was killed in a car accident almost 7 years ago (my angel's EDD is Jan. 28th and he died Jan. 29). I kept having dreams where he would put a baby girl in my arms. This happened off and on for about 8 months before I got pregnant. The night before I found out our pregnancy wasn't viable I had a dream with him in it but instead he was crying and taking a little girl out of my arms. That was what made me test that morning. I knew when I woke up that it was over.

Hopefully that made sense and didn't sound crazy