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March 19th, 2011, 08:28 AM
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So many questions have been going through my mind since I found yesterday that I lost pumpkin. Last night when I was laying in bed this question really got me thinking. Can your body attack a fetus? I know there are clotting disorders and I am hoping to get tested for them. The reason why I ask if your body can attack a fetus is this. With the first lost I had we made it to 6 weeks and some days and this lost we made it to almost 8 weeks. We both of these losses before I found out the baby passed away I had the same thing happen. I thought I got an infection from the u/s. Although thinking last night I remembered I got the same thing with the first lost. I get very itchy down there and red. It's almost like I get a yeast infection but my ob said it's not a yeast infection. After I got it with the first pregnancy peanut passed away. I got it with pumpkin and pumpkin passed away. I was feeling really postive about this pregnancy until the itchiness started. Once the itchiness started that is when I got the feeling something was wrong. The itchiness and the redness started almost right after the u/s and that is when pumpkin died. I am wondering if my body is attacking the fetus thinking it is a foreign object or illness.
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March 19th, 2011, 08:38 AM
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I do not know the answer to your question but have you considered that you have a reaction to latex? They put the latex cover over the wand before the ultrasound and that is what may be causing the irritation. ((Hugs)) I hope others can help you and you get answers.
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March 19th, 2011, 08:42 AM
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I asked the tech yesterday to make sure she used a latex free sleeve and she said she did last time also. She said I told her back in June that I had a problem with Latex. Although I don't think she did because she complained about the the sleeve she put on yesterday. She said it was messier then the other one.


I am going to ask my ob when I go in for my follow up appt after the d&c.

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March 19th, 2011, 08:46 AM
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This would be something I would write down and ask your DR about.
they also put the ultrasound gel on the wands and that could be too?
maybe next time request Abdoninal ultrasound? I know they are not as acurate but you could be on to something.
I have heard of people being alergic to there husband sperm and miscarrying because of that.... but you would think that would be a very early loss.

I know how you feel I still have questions and what ifs coming to mind all the time.

If its not a yeast infection you can get some diapercream and use that. I was getting so ittitated from TTC and got all kinds of tests done and nothing could be found so the nurse said just use diaper cream. I got desitin and it has a clear cream and it worked great.


Hormoes could be causding it too the sudden drops of them when the baby passes. I know its put HAVIC on my body right now. My face has monster zits on it and just greesy all the time no matter how many times I wash it.
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March 19th, 2011, 09:11 AM
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Hi Stacey first of all I'm really sorry for your loss.
As for your question, yes it is possible for your body (your immune system) to attack the fetus. Typically these fall under the "autoimmune" causes of miscarriage. If you're ready to look into into, there's some information on the following site under the heading "The Immune System":
Miscarriages can be Prevented | Reproductive Immunology Associates
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I would look into what caused the infection because maybe the infection is triggering something in your body. I am so sorry that you have to go through this.
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March 19th, 2011, 09:49 AM
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Judy, Thank you so much for sending me that link. I looked at it a little bit but didn't read all of it. I will sit down and read it.

Thank you Caitlin for all of your thoughts.
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March 19th, 2011, 10:10 AM
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When I was at the hospital for my last m/c the doctor said it is possible. I wasn't TTC so it was a surprise, and i hadn't gone for a pre-conception work up.

When they found out my blood type was A- they had to give me a shot of rhogam because if the baby was + i would attack it. The doctor explained to me that similar to an allergic reaction, my body could possibly attack and expell the baby (which is what happened).

I found it funny he described it as an allergic reaction because for the 12 or so hours before the m/c happened, i was saying to my bf that it almost felt like i was having an allergic reaction (to tomatoes), since i kept feeling like i was heading down the road to anaphalactic shock in waves. I was actually trying to figure out if i had something tainted with tomatos.

Now i've looked up this shot online a lot and it seems to not be an issue for most people until 28 weeks.
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I got very itchy with our son but I was a little farther along I think.

With our first m/c I got itchy right around the time we lost the baby...I didn't experience any itchiness this last time though.

IMO...I think it is most likely hormones. I asked my doctor because I thought I was getting an infection too. My pap came back perfect. She thinks it is just the hormones.

Also with both of my losses, my skin was perfect up until the loss. Once my levels started going back down I got several pimples.
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In the days before my loss I had the same type of itching/redness. I thought I had a yeast infection. When I went to the ER for my bledding they had no answer for it, but said it was not a yeast infection....hmmm

I hope you get some anwers....Hang in there ((hugs))
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March 19th, 2011, 01:27 PM
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I think you should do a little reading and then talk to your doctor about your concerns. The other girls have had some great suggestions... a reaction to latex/gel or an autoimmune issue all seem possible. Take your time to heal a little and inform yourself on the causes of recurrent miscarriage, and then maybe call your doctor for a consultation about what could be going on. I'm so sorry you're going through this, Stacey
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When they found out my blood type was A- they had to give me a shot of rhogam because if the baby was + i would attack it. The doctor explained to me that similar to an allergic reaction, my body could possibly attack and expell the baby (which is what happened).
Yeah, it's called Rhogam. Typically this can be a problem if the mom is RH negative (like O neg blood type) and the dad is RH positive, and there has been a previous conception where the baby was RH +. If you conceived an RH + baby and any of the blood mixed, then your body will develop antibodies to fight the "invader" RH so that you protect yourself. This "attack" can typically only happen after a first pregnancy, and if that pregnancy was with an RH + baby. We actually talked about this last week in my human physiology class. And again, the shot is only given later in pregnancy, because in a normal pregnancy, the only way the blood will actually mix is if the baby gets hurt and bleeds while inside the mother, or during delivery, but if the blood mixes during delivery, the first baby will be safe, but subsequent RH + babies may not be safe (although it's perfectly normal for the baby to actually stay safe throughout, even without the shots).
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March 19th, 2011, 03:39 PM
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I ditto what the others say. Rhogam is a factor...your doc should know your blood type though and if that was a factor they should have been giving you rhogam shots up to now. But, I would ask to make sure.

Clotting disorders are also a consideration.

Lastly, after my last miscarriage my doctor told me that they had previously checked me for infection and it came up negative but they put me on the zpack anyway and lo and behold I am now up to 17 weeks pregnant. You might want to ask about possible uterine infection too. Just a thought.

I am so sorry Stacey...I so wish I could change things for you.
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Yeah, it's called Rhogam. Typically this can be a problem if the mom is RH negative (like O neg blood type) and the dad is RH positive, and there has been a previous conception where the baby was RH +. If you conceived an RH + baby and any of the blood mixed, then your body will develop antibodies to fight the "invader" RH so that you protect yourself. This "attack" can typically only happen after a first pregnancy, and if that pregnancy was with an RH + baby. We actually talked about this last week in my human physiology class. And again, the shot is only given later in pregnancy, because in a normal pregnancy, the only way the blood will actually mix is if the baby gets hurt and bleeds while inside the mother, or during delivery, but if the blood mixes during delivery, the first baby will be safe, but subsequent RH + babies may not be safe (although it's perfectly normal for the baby to actually stay safe throughout, even without the shots).
That's good info. Just wanted to add to this that the shot should also be given after miscarriages.
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That's good info. Just wanted to add to this that the shot should also be given after miscarriages.
Yes i had the shot immediately after my miscarriage.
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I don't have anything to add to what the other ladies said but I wanted to send huge hugs your way and let you know you are in my thoughts and prayers. It's such a crappy thing to have to go through.
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Thank you ladies. With having the other two losses and a d&c I know I don't need the shot for Rhogam. I forget what my blood type is although I just had it typed and cross matched for my surgery tomorrow. I know it's not the one where I need that shot.
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