What do you all think

HippyMomOf4 · #1 December 16th, 2007, 09:45 PM

I've been doing a lot of thinking and i really think i had more of a chemical pregnancy rather than a m/c. I started AF like normal on Nov 30th, excatally 29 days since my last. Which was perfect since my cycles are 29 days. I would have never known i was pregnant if i didn't test(DH and my friend kept telling me too). My beta levels never went over 172 which is very low for me supposed to be like 5-6 weeks. What do you all think, i'm just so confused right now over this. I just started temping again too and my temps have been weird, yesterday they were 97.1 and today 97.9.

*Bobbie* · #2 December 16th, 2007, 09:53 PM

Honestly... I view a chemical PG as a m/c. Your body WAS pregnant even if it was for a very short time.

I am not sure what the actual definition of a chemical pregnancy is? All I know is I had one last month...and it hurt emotionally just like my *missed m/c*

Danica · #3 December 17th, 2007, 06:49 AM

It's hard to tell being that close. I do think they are just as painful to go through

Julia'sMommy · #4 December 17th, 2007, 07:50 AM

I was in exactly the same boat as you are just a short while ago. I got a positive HPT on Nov 14th which would have put me at about 4 1/2 weeks pregnant. Then on the 17th, I started to bleed, went to the emerg and ended up miscarrying (no D&C necessary). Urine test came back negative for pregnancy, and the only info I got from my blood results was that I miscarried (doctors here don't tell you a whole lot of details). My family doc told me to wait 2-3 months before TTC again but with no real explanation. So, being the type of girl who doesn't just except the vague mumbo jumbo the doc's tell me at face value, I did a ton of research. In the end, I'm pretty sure I had a chemical pregnancy.

I've made the decision to TTC again right away. I haven't found enough information to convince me that in my particular situation, TTC again so soon is unsafe. I really do think it's more of an emotional issue than a physical one for me. I've come to find that there are few real reasons to wait at the very least one regular cycle before TTC again. One is emotional healing, two is uterine healing, and three is dating the next pregnancy. For me, I was so early on that there wasn't a whole lot of uterine involvement so I don't think the healing period is as serious for me as it would be for someone further along. I had the time I needed to deal with my emotions. It was difficult, but a month later, I am able to say that I feel ready to be pregnant again. And as for dating the pregnancy, with the OPK's, I am able to date when I would have conceived.

One thing for you to keep in mind though is that your cycle will likely be messed up. It's been a really confusing month for me but I believe I just ovulated on Friday and that would have been CD28 for me. That is really, really late to ovulate for me. But according to my CM and the OPK's, I did O. We BD'd and we'll see where we are in 2-3 weeks.

I do think a chemical is the same as a m/c, but it is just another name for a m/c that happens very very early. It sure does tear at the heart. One thing I do know though is that if we hadn't been TTC and I wasn't waiting to test so early, I would have never known I was pregnant and this experience would have been a late period instead of a m/c for me. That's why I will try my best to wait longer to test this month.

I've read that in healthy people TTC, 60-70% of the time, conception does take place every month but there is an issue with either the health of the zygote or implantation, or maybe both. We then experience a late period and think nothing of it. I don't think fertilizing the egg is the hard part, I think it's healthy division and proper implantation that's the tricky part. I don't think chemical pregnancies are more common or a new thing. I just think that people are testing much earlier now than ever before and with HPT's being more and more sensitive, we are able to find out about conception much sooner. Also, I believe that chemical pregnancies, with uterine involvement being so minimal, and the chances of the new egg implanting in exactly the same place being minimal, our chances of conception are similar to someone who has never miscarried.

Anyway, sorry for the looooooooooooooooonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnngggggggggg gggg post. I hope I helped some. I know how confusing it's been for me and I hope maybe you can get a little clarity from what I've been through. Keep in mind though that everything I say is just my own experience and opinions.

It really is up to you to decide how you feel based on the info you've read, our shared experiences and your emotional state. Of course I wish you good luck, but more than that, I wish you certainty in your decision and a strong heart. If you ever have any questions, feel free to ask!!

HippyMomOf4 · #5 December 17th, 2007, 12:15 PM

thanks so much, i have been doing some reading about it and i think i'm understanding more what it is. I to had a negitive urine at the naval hospital and then positive blood. My beta was at 14 and they didn't see how i got a HPT positive and i got it on 3 different brands, so i dunno lol i think thats why its was so confussign for me