Sttn

KatieHeitman · #1 August 19th, 2011, 06:54 AM

Josh still doesn't STTN. We're to the point of exhaustion. It doesn't help that we're living with my sister and he shares our room. Only 20 some odd more days until we can move in to our new house and he gets his own room. But anyways...so we finished up Josh's last container of formula and decided we wouldn't buy anymore. So instead of bottles during the night he'd get milk in a sippy cup. Well the first night off formula was DH's night to get up with Josh. All he did was throw a sippy cup of milk in the crib. He had to get up twice to show Josh where his sippy cup was. Last night was my night and I only had to show him once where his sippy cup was! Once! Only once! I'm thrilled. I hope this is a good sign. Once he STTN then I know DH will be okay with TTC again. And lately Josh has been up anywhere from 3 times a night to 6 times.

I think I can see the end.

Celine · #2 August 19th, 2011, 07:24 AM

Oh goodness. Your poor DH and you. Those sleep interrupted nights are the worst. Hopefully, little baby Josh will sleep through the night soon so you get some good-night sleep.

I slept w/ earplugs yesterday. Sophia has been going through this phase where she wakes up once or twice during the night. I always feel so tired the next morning when that happens. I know that is nothing compared to what you have to go through. But I still remember those times when you had to get up every 2 hours.

Irish_Wristwatch · #3 August 19th, 2011, 07:36 AM

thats awesome! Ross still doesnt STTN either, thankfully hes only up once most nights. I hope Josh sleeps all night soon

mommydiva · #4 August 19th, 2011, 07:42 AM

Hope he sleeps better once you move. I couldn't imagine having to be up that much still at this point.

noworries · #5 August 19th, 2011, 07:50 AM

Isaac is still usually up 3 times a night so I feel ya. He's still breastfed and we're no longer bed sharing so I have to actually wake up to feed him. I don't know what I'll do when he starts sttn, I'm so used to only sleeping a few hours at a time.

forest · #6 August 19th, 2011, 08:52 AM

Alison is sleeping through the night most nights now and I also just transitioned her to her crib from our bed. The key for getting her to sleep through the night was getting her to fall asleep in her crib. Before I would nurse her to sleep (which took forever) and she was waking up multiple times a night. Now that she is falling asleep in her crib she sleeps much better.

*~*SnowHibiscus*~* · #7 August 19th, 2011, 02:45 PM

Hayden still wakes up. She wants to be held all night long. And she wants you to hold her while standing up.

So hubby has been working on getting her to fall asleep on her own in her crib and pats her back to sleep during the night. I can't bend over her crib long enough so it's kinda his little project. I feel bad for him but we'll all be happier once she starts STTN. I got up with our first almost every night for 18months before I started putting her in bed with us. I'm spent.

I<3HelloKitty · #8 August 19th, 2011, 06:27 PM

We still bedshare, and I know Ellie still gets up a few times to nurse, but I'm not really awake enough to keep track.

I do know that she is definitely sleeping longer stretches now and not waking up so much.

mrsjl · #9 August 19th, 2011, 06:35 PM

okay, sorry to take over your thread, but I need help on this topic.

My first child slept through the night her whole life, so the fact that Nathan doesn't is making me feel like a first time mom. I don't know what I should be doing in regard to milk/bottles at night. I'm the kind of person who does what works and not necessarily what I "should", but I can't help but wonder if there is a better way.

I breastfed until he turned 1. Now he takes whole milk in a bottle. I give him one first thing while still in bed in hopes to make him sleep in a bit. I also give him one before he naps and before bed. then when I stopped breastfeeding (he used to nurse all night long) I would give him a bottle in the middle of the night. that's about 32 oz of milk a day. is this too much? should I not give him a bottle at night? I think it is more of a comfort thing at night and before sleep than anything else. I want to give him milk in a cup but he doesn't take a soother so I am at a loss of how to get him to sttn. giving him a soother now would be stupid, so what do I do?

I should also mention that he sleeps in his play pen in our room. I was going to start putting him in his own room in his crib to see if that made a difference.

KatieHeitman · #10 August 20th, 2011, 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by mrsjl

okay, sorry to take over your thread, but I need help on this topic.

My first child slept through the night her whole life, so the fact that Nathan doesn't is making me feel like a first time mom. I don't know what I should be doing in regard to milk/bottles at night. I'm the kind of person who does what works and not necessarily what I "should", but I can't help but wonder if there is a better way.

I breastfed until he turned 1. Now he takes whole milk in a bottle. I give him one first thing while still in bed in hopes to make him sleep in a bit. I also give him one before he naps and before bed. then when I stopped breastfeeding (he used to nurse all night long) I would give him a bottle in the middle of the night. that's about 32 oz of milk a day. is this too much? should I not give him a bottle at night? I think it is more of a comfort thing at night and before sleep than anything else. I want to give him milk in a cup but he doesn't take a soother so I am at a loss of how to get him to sttn. giving him a soother now would be stupid, so what do I do?

I should also mention that he sleeps in his play pen in our room. I was going to start putting him in his own room in his crib to see if that made a difference.

I would definitely start by putting him in his own room. Josh takes the sippy cup as a comfort thing too at night. For us we prefer to give it to him if it comforts him. So it's up to you if you want to keep giving it to him.

mshah · #11 August 20th, 2011, 08:26 AM

Lori - You may want to see if he will eat less with each bottle. I noticed Omair will just finish whatever is in the bottle, regardless of the amount. He's just as happy with 2 oz as he is with 6 at night. I figured out he was just doing it to soothe because of that. Now he gets 2 oz at night, whether he wakes up once or three times. I'm noticing now after doing this for several months that he's even now just taking a couple sips and going back to sleep.

Think about trying it that way. If he's still hungry after 2 oz, then it may be that he is simply hungry still. If he rolls over and goes to sleep after 2 oz, then it's just comfort and you can wean him down slowly.

I also want to add that while 32 oz a day does seem a bit much, you have to take into account the nutrients level difference. There's quite a bit more nutrients in formula than there is in milk. If he really seems hungry rather than comfort, you may want to consider switching to a toddler formula, like enfagrow (which we're using with success right now).

mrsjl · #12 August 20th, 2011, 09:46 AM

I will try to cut down on the amount of milk in each bottle. I will also try him in the crib in the kids' room, maybe if I can't hear him as easily I will be less likely to jump right up and grab him at every little noise, and maybe he will learn to self soothe.

rainbow_brite19 · #13 August 20th, 2011, 09:48 AM

I feel you, Jackson still wakes up at night to nurse, even more so now that I am back at work (cause he can't bf while I am gone and is making up for it)

He won't take cows milk at all.

krystal g · #14 August 23rd, 2011, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by mrsjl

I will try to cut down on the amount of milk in each bottle. I will also try him in the crib in the kids' room, maybe if I can't hear him as easily I will be less likely to jump right up and grab him at every little noise, and maybe he will learn to self soothe.

I would never say you were "wrong" because I totally get that you need to do what works for you, but I think 32 oz is too much. My Dr. recommends 16 oz and any additional juice/water because nutrition should come from food not milk. I've read 16 to 20 oz. I would definitely try to decrease the amount of milk and see what happens. I've never given Colby milk at night, except when breastfeeding, but I think maybe a small amount before bed just to fill his tummy might end up being enough. And from experience, Colby sleeps much better when in his crib away from me.

mrsjl · #15 August 23rd, 2011, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by krystal g

I would never say you were "wrong" because I totally get that you need to do what works for you, but I think 32 oz is too much. My Dr. recommends 16 oz and any additional juice/water because nutrition should come from food not milk. I've read 16 to 20 oz. I would definitely try to decrease the amount of milk and see what happens. I've never given Colby milk at night, except when breastfeeding, but I think maybe a small amount before bed just to fill his tummy might end up being enough. And from experience, Colby sleeps much better when in his crib away from me.

I stopped giving him a bottle cold turkey 3 days ago. he gets milk in a sippy cup and the amount he drinks has decreased substantially and he eats better. I mean, no wonder he is eating better when he doesn't fill up on milk

the first night of no bottle he slept straight through until like, 6am. he had eaten a filling snack before hand. the second night I don't remember, and last night was rough to start but got easier. it seems he wakes for comfort, not hunger, and is fine if I cuddle him and rub his back. early in the morning we snuggle and when he is ready to get up we do and he has a big breakfast with a sippy cup of milk instead of having a full bottle and then breakfast. he woke around midnight last night and had a few ounces of milk from his cup, he must have been thirsty because he guzzled it.

so in short, no more bottles, and no more excessive amounts of milk!

oh, but he is still sleeping in our room. I tried him in the crib in the kids' room but he screamed and cried and looked terrified to be in a place and bed he has never slept in before. I think to make the transition easier I will try him in the playpen in their room, because the play pen is familiar. then when he is used to the room, put him in the crib. OR, I could let him fall asleep in my room and then move him to the crib.