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August 20th, 2013, 01:07 PM
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...WITHOUT paid maternity leave

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August 20th, 2013, 01:13 PM
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Isn't it weird how of those countries we are pretty much the only developed country.... tisk tisk

reason 50003264896 I want to move to the netherlands!
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August 20th, 2013, 01:23 PM
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Oh we are by far the most developed country of the eight.

And can you imagine 14 paid weeks off?! And that is the lower end of the barrel!!
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August 20th, 2013, 01:40 PM
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Sad! Very sad!

I have a friend in Canada and she said the place she works give them a full year off work, PAID. That would be just plain amazing.
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August 20th, 2013, 01:46 PM
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A full year?! WOW! Wonder how much they give fathers...I know in the netherlands they get almost if not as much time as the mom! Dh gets 1day.....and that is very unusual!
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August 20th, 2013, 02:40 PM
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yeah you can get almost a full years paid almost everywhere in Canada.. and even if you go with out pay you still get the full year off. I know a LOT of American women who would happily go with out pay for a year to stay home and know their job is going to be there when they get back. there are even provisions for if you have a preemie in most provinces.

You have to work so many hours before you qualify. So it's not like you can start working at 8m pregnant and automatically get maternity leave either.

In the US you don't even get a chance to recover from childbirth and you're back to work. It's not right.. and I don't buy ANY of the excuses people give about it being hard on the employers.. there's enough unemployed people out there who'd love 6m of work as a temp because that'd earn them their unemployment again.


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August 20th, 2013, 03:11 PM
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Thats awful, I never realised it was so bad when compared with other countries. We're very lucky here in the UK, although it does differ with employers. As I work for the government, I'm entitled to (roughly) 6 months full pay, 3 months half pay and then 3 months no pay of my normal wage. But i also get statutory maternity allowance I *think*. I plan on taking off the full year.

Dads over here are (as of last year or the year before I cant remember) entitled to two weeks paid leave BUT if the mum is the main wage earner - the dad can claim what's left of the year's statutory maternity allowance if the mum returns to work early (say after 3 months).
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August 20th, 2013, 03:17 PM
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I'm Canadian and I just wanted to add that the 52 weeks off can be split between parents. The first 17 weeks has to be the mother, but the remainder can be either parent.

I'm going to be taking about 7 months off, and my husband will be taking 5. While I'm off, I will get approx 65% of my pay from the government, but since my husband works FOR the government, he gets 'topped up' to 96% of his pay for his time off. When you consider he won't be paying to commute into Toronto, he'll make more take home than he does while working.

I LOVE this country, and am very thankful to live in Canada.
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August 20th, 2013, 04:13 PM
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Canada sounds AWESOME! If only I weren't a southern girl who hates the cold! haha
It makes sense that you have to be employed for a certain amount of time before receiving those kinds of benefits..curious if yall know how long you have to be employed..or what happens if you decide to quit and stay at home full time after the paid leave

NOT saying I would do that..just curious
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August 20th, 2013, 05:55 PM
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Canada sounds AWESOME! If only I weren't a southern girl who hates the cold! haha
It makes sense that you have to be employed for a certain amount of time before receiving those kinds of benefits..curious if yall know how long you have to be employed..or what happens if you decide to quit and stay at home full time after the paid leave

NOT saying I would do that..just curious
hmm...

Employment Insurance Maternity and Parental Benefits - Service Canada

600hrs. And there is no penalty if you don't return since this is a program you've paid into.
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August 20th, 2013, 06:23 PM
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Canada sounds AWESOME! If only I weren't a southern girl who hates the cold! haha
It makes sense that you have to be employed for a certain amount of time before receiving those kinds of benefits..curious if yall know how long you have to be employed..or what happens if you decide to quit and stay at home full time after the paid leave

NOT saying I would do that..just curious
A LOT of people take the year off and then don't ever come back... But to get the year paid you HAVE to SAY you are coming back... Because they hold your position for you. It's always a guessing game whether or not the mom will be coming back. If you don't come back, no penalty, you just obviously forfeit your position.

And you need to work 600 hours before collecting. I have a friend pregnant with her second, and her first is only 16 months. She is literally going back to work for 600 hours (16 weeks) only, so she can collect another year of EI. Not a bad deal.
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August 21st, 2013, 06:54 AM
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Yup like others have said the mother can take the full year off... And I plan too.

Me and my SO both work for the government, and life will be easier if he remains working at full pay and me bringing in whatever EI decides to give me.
Either way, ill get something and its better than nothing.

I can not even imagine only getting 6 weeks off after giving birth... I don't know how the American moms do it

My benefits will also be paid by my employer while I'm off , and that entitles me to a complete private room for however long I need to be in the hospital... Otherwise without benefits I'd have to share a room.. No thanks!

It's plain crazy that the US doesn't give expecting mothers more... Then again without expecting moms the population in the US would not grow (excluding immigrants). So you'd think they'd want to invest in the future.

The only way SO and I can have a baby is to have that year off.... Gives time to settle into life with a baby... Pays will be strained but the first year is the most important.
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August 21st, 2013, 08:15 AM
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Gosh how sad is this discussion (unless you're Canadian!)

I'm curious as to how many women don't go back to work.

I'd more than happily pay into a system that gave that much maternity leave for women. It can only benefit babies, families and the workforce.
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August 21st, 2013, 09:15 AM
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That is ridiculous!
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