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September 13th, 2013, 09:05 AM
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U.S. measles cases in 2013 may be most in 17 years - CNN.com

Here's my take.... the 'old' vaccines we're all used too I firmly believe we need to give to our kids....... However I believe there is a link between too many too close together and autism (my uneducated opinion)......so I would def ask to space them out..............now I also firmly believe in over vaccinating as well........... just as I don't think any normal healthy person needs a flu shot.... and also the new vaccines for girls ( I forget what it's called), the one you would get before your 15 think...

ok not trying to start any big debates, but I thought I'd pass it along
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September 13th, 2013, 10:06 AM
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MMR (measles, mumps, rubella) are one of the few vaccinations we have agreed to do to our children. We also are going to delay vax and spread them out (1 shot per visit).

It would also help if when you get your shots they tell you that certain vax's can cause you to shed the live virus into other people like old people and babies.



I don't get the flu shot.. since for 4 years in a row, I got the strain of flu that I'd specifically been vaccinated for 3m prior. If I'm going to get it anyway, I'm not going to freaking be sick for a week post shot AND be sick for a week months later from the same strain that I'd gotten the shot for.
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The shot for girls is the HPV shot. I just made the cutoff 5 years ago when it came out. I have no idea though if the vaccination is useful and if the statistics have gone down since the inception of the vaccine. I've heard other people say things about vaccinations and autism being linked. I've also heard that autism and/or allergies could be associated with all the GMO's in our food now. I guess you have to decide what's important to you as mother and what risks you're willing to take and what risks you aren't.
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September 13th, 2013, 01:24 PM
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"Among those who have been stricken with measles this year, 92% were not vaccinated or had unknown vaccination status." They are just passing the measles back and forth!

There was a big story a week or two ago about this Texas mega church whose pastor is anti-vaccination, and there was a large outbreak at that church because many members followed her lead.

I think if vaccinations and autism are somehow linked at all, it's the mercury that's to blame. But that's just my opinion.

I think there is way, way too little research about other common chemicals that our kids are exposed to, i.e. pesticides on fruits and veggies, or food additives, or processes that foods go through. That stuff scares me more than the danger of vaccines.
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September 13th, 2013, 03:37 PM
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My Dh couldn't tell you if he'd been vaccinated or not for Measles. (he has been, I asked his mother). So he'd fall into the vaccinated, but unknown category for information.

Certain things I am fine with vaccinating for. While I'm sure my kid would survive measles, it's not exactly the same as chicken pox for risk factors, so we'll probably do it. (we are NOT doing pox). Then again we aren't entirely sure if our kids are going to school or not, and that will affect which shots we do get and which we don't.
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September 13th, 2013, 07:34 PM
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Retracted autism study an 'elaborate fraud,' British journal finds - CNN.com

Vaccines do not cause austism. There was ONE study, years ago, that claimed there was a link. The man who produced the study was later found to have falsified the information and was stripped of his medical license. I hope this sets your mind at ease.

Both girls and boys can get the Gardasil vaccine, which prevents cancer.
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September 16th, 2013, 10:17 AM
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Just lurking and wanted to echo Mel. As someone with Autism and with a grandfather, father, brother, aunt, several cousins, and a child with it, I wanted to assure you vaccinations didn't do it to us. The oldest of us were born before vaccinations, and by the time my cousins and I were born they no longer put mercury in our shots. Except for flu shots, and I haven't had that one. Regardless, heavy metal poisoning and Autism are two very different things.

My dad is teaching at a Christian school, and the principal doesn't make any of the kids get vaxed. It scares the crap out of me. I go to church with some of the people there, and there was a measles outbreak south of us. So many people forget why it was dangerous. It's not just a rash, it can swell your air ways. Here I am about to give birth to someone that cannot be vaxed against it for a year! And my dad is such a delicate flower. He'd die if he got whooping cough.
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September 16th, 2013, 04:09 PM
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I know we'll do most of the vaccinations - a lot of these diseases are honestly WAY more scary than autism (which the vaccines don't cause, anyway). A friend's mom had post-polio syndrome - even if you survived polio, it basically wrecked your mobility. Honestly, I would even vaccinate for Chicken Pox - most people think it's not a big deal, but I was SO sick with it. I had a fever for three weeks straight - and I was four years old! Thinking back, my measure for how sick I was is my preschool teachers - they were SO HAPPY when I came back.

The only thing I might do is spread out the vaccines. Some of them are given to babies when they are very small and that worries me, just in terms of them maybe being hard on a small body. That being said, I don't know what the usual schedule is in the city, and I need to do more research. But it seems like I'll have time...
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I am a mental health therapist at an agency where we work with kiddos with autism among some other dx's and I've never heard of any link between vaccines and autism.
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September 16th, 2013, 04:38 PM
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Some important points:

-The flu shot every year is NOT over-vaccinating. What they do is figure out the most prevalent flu strains for the year and vax against those. The "flu" is not the flu, it is many different strains that can cause the flu. There was one year I didn't get the flu shot, and that was 2009. I was in the hospital with H1N1 for two weeks.

-There is no mercury in childhood vaccinations. NONE.

-Vaccines do NOT cause autism. Yes, autism rates are rising. Why? Because a) we are getting better at diagnosing it and b) autism used to be diagnosed as all sorts of things from mental retardation to schizophrenia. Look at Japan where they stopped giving the MMR for years and years and their autism rates rose as well.

-Kids may get more vaccines but they actually get LESS that kids of the 1980s get. they are smarter, smaller and have less "toxins" in them.

-There is zero reason to spread out vaccines, it is worse to. That "alternate vaccine" schedule has zero scientific backing. "Dr Bob" even admits it. See above for why it is not "too much, too soon."

-People tell me that chicken pox is fine...until you know a kid that dies from it, and that means shingles later on in life for the rest of us. Once you have CP, it lives in your spine for the rest of your life. Very little grosses me out, and that is one of the things that does.

No, I am not in the medical field, but my major was archaeology and my emphasis was on disease and early immunology. To know the affects of diseases on the skeletal record, I took three years of disease and immunology courses and read only peer-reviewed journals, not Dr. Google. I have kept up on the subject over the past 8+ years because it interests me and have probably logged over 10,000 hours. I should really look into getting a degree in the subject Yes, I am fully vaccinated including HPV and actually have an appointment in two weeks to get a couple of boosters when I get my flu shot, as I am 30 now and going to be TTC very soon.
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Lots of articles here Vaccines « Science-Based Medicine, with references to actual peer reviewed scientific journals - aka real science.
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