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March 28th, 2009, 07:35 AM
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I had an appointment with my NFP counselor yesterday. It seems that because of my short LP (8-11 days), the huge amount of ovulation bleeding, and the fact that I have way too many fertile days after ovulation, that I probably have a hormone imbalance. Probably too much Estrogen after ovulation and not enough Progesterone. I've already contacted my OBGYN Nurse Practitioner, and since my next yearly exam is in June, she won't see me until then. Which means that if we aren't pregnant this cycle, I won't be having a baby in 2009.  DH couldn't make it to the meeting with me last night, so I had the un-pleasure of filling him in on all this when I got home. He tried to be supportive - stayed home instead of going out with his friends. He took me to a movie - I Love You, Man - a much needed comedy to get my mind off things. He knows that infertility is my worst fear. So needless to say, last night was not a good night for me.
In other news, but still related, my NFP couselor told me about if we need to get testing they'll probably want an SA. Apparently the Catholic church doesn't like a man to "do it" in a cup. So they send you a special condom with holes in it. I guess that way some sperm still get in me, but some is left in the condom to do the testing with. A condom with holes in it - it just seems like such an oxymoron. The other oxymoron is Catholic and condom. It just doesn't sound right. DH and I actually laughed a little about it.
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March 28th, 2009, 07:55 AM
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Oh man, I'm sorry that you will likely have to wait to get the testing done... that just doesn't seem fair! Is there anyway you can see someone else about just getting the blood work done? Just curious. I'd think at this point, there would be a solid reason and most Dr's would want you to be seen. Just my opinion though.
I'd never heard of that in the catholic religion and the SA... it really does seem like an oxymoron to me too.
It was very sweet of your DH to stay home and cheer you up though. Here's lots of  It sounds like you could use them!
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March 28th, 2009, 08:31 AM
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Thanks for the support Chris, it really means a lot to me. I'm going to try to get through this next month, maybe two, and then call up my nurse practitioner's office to see about getting testing done sooner rather than later. I realize that June is only 3 months away, but still, it's 3 months away. I just don't know if my insurance will pay for the visit if it's not been a year since I last saw her. At this point in time, I know we won't be having a 2009 baby if we're not pregnant this month, so part of me says it doesn't really matter that I have to wait until June since a 2010 baby seems so far away right now.
I think I might have to tell my family about this too. They keep asking me when we're going to start trying - we haven't told them yet. I'm getting really tired of lying and saying that we're waiting. And I'm getting tired of getting the questions, so I may just tell them and ask them to stop asking me. It's so frustrating.
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March 28th, 2009, 08:55 AM
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First, I'm really sorry you are going through this.
Second, don't make any assumptions about infertility, etc until you do the testing. I am sure your NFP is very knowledgable, but you need to get tested to get a definitive diagnosis.
Third, your insurance may cover an appt prior to June. You need to call and ask. Most companies will cover consultations and appointments between annual exams if there's a medical need. Painful periods and ovulation bleeding should qualify. I've never had an issue getting any of my OB appts covered, regardless of when they occurred. It all depends on how your OB bills for the appt.
Fourth, while I completely understand "infertility is your greatest fear", don't give up hope. Infertility is treatable. We were diagnosed with severe infertility back in October; 4 months later, we were pregnant, thanks to medical assistance. Infertility is a devastating, but again -it's treatable and you CAN and WILL get pregnant once they figure out the right treatment for your situation.
Good luck
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March 28th, 2009, 11:32 AM
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I'm sorry that you will have to go through testing, but hopefully you'll get the answers that you need to get pg.
I'm surprised at the church's position on SA testing. DH is Catholic too - but he said that he has no issues with "doing it with a cup" if he needs too. (picture me rolling my eyes here). Maybe you'll get pg with the compromised condom - it happens all the time to teenagers!
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March 28th, 2009, 12:58 PM
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I hope you can get in earlier and that you get some answers. I've never heard about the Catholic position either, but it did surprise me that their answer would be condoms! very strange.
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March 28th, 2009, 06:12 PM
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Richmond Girl, thanks for your comments. I know it's not definitive yet, but that's more than likely what's happening. I just need the test results to back it up. Which I might call my doctor's office in a couple weeks to discuss this. I'm not trying to give up hope, and I'm don't want to come across as whining, as I know a lot of women on here have been trying for way longer than I have and have to work really hard at TTC. I'm trying to stay positive, it was just a blow to hear my NFP counselor to say that we were "technically in the infertility category." I even knew it was coming, and it still took me by surprise to actually hear it.
Kimberly, Ha! You cracked me up, but you're so right - it does happen to teens all the time. The form of NFP we're doing if fairly new and is ran out of the Pope John Paul medical center, or something like that. So we're finding out that they're super strict about things. When I told DH about the "special" condom, he literally said that he would rather do it in a cup!
Christine, thanks for replying. I know, isn't it strange?! I'm going to try to get in earlier. We'll see.
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March 29th, 2009, 04:14 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ASH_M
I had an appointment with my NFP counselor yesterday. It seems that because of my short LP (8-11 days), the huge amount of ovulation bleeding, and the fact that I have way too many fertile days after ovulation, that I probably have a hormone imbalance. Probably too much Estrogen after ovulation and not enough Progesterone. I've already contacted my OBGYN Nurse Practitioner, and since my next yearly exam is in June, she won't see me until then. Which means that if we aren't pregnant this cycle, I won't be having a baby in 2009.  DH couldn't make it to the meeting with me last night, so I had the un-pleasure of filling him in on all this when I got home. He tried to be supportive - stayed home instead of going out with his friends. He took me to a movie - I Love You, Man - a much needed comedy to get my mind off things. He knows that infertility is my worst fear. So needless to say, last night was not a good night for me.
In other news, but still related, my NFP couselor told me about if we need to get testing they'll probably want an SA. Apparently the Catholic church doesn't like a man to "do it" in a cup. So they send you a special condom with holes in it. I guess that way some sperm still get in me, but some is left in the condom to do the testing with. A condom with holes in it - it just seems like such an oxymoron. The other oxymoron is Catholic and condom. It just doesn't sound right. DH and I actually laughed a little about it.
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I usually post on TTC#1, but since it's been six months, I started looking around here. I just wanted to let you know that I'm going through the same exact thing. I have very short LPs (5-8 days) and last cycle we did all these tests. Everything is fine in terms of my tubes are clear, DH's sperm is good, etc., but my hormones are out of wack.
The reason I'm writing is to give you some hope. I started progesterone this cycle and my LP lasted 9 days! I'm hoping to hit 10 next cycle. So good luck and please know that this is totally treatable.
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March 29th, 2009, 05:09 PM
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Woohoo! That's such a good response to the progesterone - I'm glad your body is responding that well. Yeah, I know it's totally treatable, assuming that's what the test results show. It's just a bummer, you know? What am I saying, of course you do. Good luck on lengthening that LP some more.
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March 29th, 2009, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by ASH_M
Woohoo! That's such a good response to the progesterone - I'm glad your body is responding that well. Yeah, I know it's totally treatable, assuming that's what the test results show. It's just a bummer, you know? What am I saying, of course you do. Good luck on lengthening that LP some more.
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It is a bumber, but I am just grateful that I know what's wrong and it's treatable. I'm still scared I will never have a long enough LP, but I know it's just going to take time.
Good luck to you!
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March 30th, 2009, 05:20 AM
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hun, i had a similar situation. they put me on progesterone after Oing and it brought my LP to 13 days. so it might not be difficult to fix the problem at all!!!! don't think the worse!!!! i know it's hard not to. our fears take over sometimes... but the problem might be a simple supplement away!!!! usually is!
as for the "holy condom" <----- pun totally intended - that is wild - gotta wonder how much sperm the condom could retain and if it would affect the results in anyway, having come in contact with latex???? probably not though if they allow this.
sorry it's been such a difficult road for you girl. you're not alone. i'm still in limbo waiting on AF and still getting positive pregnancy tests, all beit, as light as they are...
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March 31st, 2009, 04:31 PM
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Thanks for the response Lynda. It's great to get so much support on this board.
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