[~*Jackie*~]

So my temps have been L-O-W this cycle. They went up for about a week, and then dropped this weekend (both under 98.0, which has not happened EVER), and then this morning 97.71. (A link to my chart is in my IUI blinkie in my siggie). Now I am getting crampy, getting bloated, and getting a headache- all things that point towards being further in my 2ww than I would have thought. I am wondering if my OPKs were messed up because of the flu... I mean, everything happened around the time I got sick, and I am thinking that the IUI wasn't done at the right time- totally my fault because I couldn't really tell what was going on in there and couldn't confirm with my temps from the fever.

Ugh, I'm frustrated and now left with the question of whether or not I want to try another IUI. My RE says due to my endo that it won't increase my chances at all, and I only wanted to do it (healthy of course) so that I gave it an attempt before spending $15K on IVF for a one time only shot. I don't know what to do. With as low as my temps are, I am pretty certain the witch will be here with a day or so, although I have no spotting yet. I have my IVF Orientation in 3 weeks, and if we go with it, we'll probably start in January or February. Ugh, I am stuck and don't know what to do.

[ChristinaR]

Jackie, I'm sorry hun! My IUI's were timed really bad too, and when I did them they weren't monitoring me either which aggrevated me because I was the one shelling out the money for them and to boot washed sperm only live for like 6 hours so if the egg isn't there by the time you do the IUI it won't work. It's very frustrating.

I think if it were me though and the RE said the odds were not any different I would skip the IUI all together and go straight to IVF and use their most sucessful protocol.

I know this can't be an easy decision, I hope you guys can come up with a plan you'll be happy and confident with. KUP and good luck with what ever you decide. I'm pulling for you hun. (((HUGS)))

[~Lynda~]

oh hun, i'm sorry! the flu certainly sucks and it double sucks for you since it caused this! regarding the IUI or going directly to the IVF, I would say listen to your heart!! it's talking to you, you just have to listen to it!!! i've learned it usually won't steer me wrong.

I hope you're wrong about Oing earlier than the when the IUI was done!! I hope AF is missing and you don't have to think about it anymore!!! HUGS

ok i just stalked your chart and i'm not sure i agree with you. your CP it totally in line with your opk and indicative of Oing. Maybe you're experiencing some different things cause you're knocked up! temps can fool you girl. especially if you were sick!! so i'm gonna disagree and believe that your IUI looks like it was timed right!

[MommaLee]

I'm sorry Jackie! I'm kind of on the fence saying this, but I kind of agree with Christina. I think I'd feel different if you were being monitored because then you could see/know what is going on, but your left in the dark because of the costs. Going with IVF (I think) will render you better care and at the very least, keep you informed of what your body is doing.

But....I also want to stick my foot in my mouth for saying that because I keep googling "stage 4 endo IUI" and the search engine brings up quite a few success stories of women who got pregnant through an IUI with severe cases of endo; so I'd definitely say it is something to consider.

I came across this article back when I was researching my failed IUI cycle....there is a portion where the author mentions endo.

http://www.stlwomensjournal.com/arti...1.26073733.pdf

I know a few ladies on the MA board (including myself) have used the SIRM discussion board to ask questions.....and a doctor will respond to you - all you have to do is register - you don't have to be a patient. Normally, they will give their opinion and then tell you to call them to schedule a free consult. I believe it was Christin (*CAMM*) that got some good info regarding her failed IVF cycle and course of treatment.

Here is that website. I would encourage you to at least post a question about your situation and ask what their take is on IVF or IUI. It couldn't hurt and they answer the posts fairly quickly.

Here is the link to the boards: SIRM - Discussion Board (Powered by Invision Power Board)

Good luck with your decision. I'll be thinking about you. HUGS!

[~*Jackie*~]

@ Christina.... I do agree with you, and I do think that IVF will ultimately be where we end up, so I'm not sure that IUI will do the trick. Especially since (by my own choice) I'm doing this unmonitored. So that, along with me having a 103 fever for 2 days couldn't have been very good in trying to not kill the washed spermies.. Honestly, I'm not sure IVF will work either, and that's what scares the ** out of me. Seriously.. Eventually, once again, these AFs are going to be entirely too painful to deal with and I will have to call it quits. I am really hoping to get my BFP before that, but time is closing in on me.

@Lynda... Thank you for saying that. I need to listen to my heart more closely. Last cycle, my heart was telling me to skip it since my O was coming so late, and had I listened, I could have not worried about any of this and skipped the IUI, etc. This cycle hasn't even started yet, and my heart isn't saying too much to me yet. It's just telling me to look at my options and make a decision. I'd love to agree with you about my IUI timing, and it very well could be as the cramps went away, BUT, my post-O temps are now pre-O temps and I don't know what's going on.

@ Lee Ann.... Thanks for the article and for the hope of success stories. I've done the same google search and I've seen yes's and no's, so it's so hard for me right now... The group that finances my IVF through my RE- ARC- have the same feature on their site, so maybe I'll ask. This way, maybe if I get a professional (besides my RE) tell me that the way to go is IVF, I won't second and third guess myself...

Uhh, this is just tough. I am SO scared of ending up empty handed after all of this. I know I say it a lot, but I mean it.... I am soooo scared. Thanks for listening to me, ladies. It means a lot to me to have you here and you always know just what to say.

[SavaAngel]

Good Luck with your decisions. I think everyone above gave you a lot of information and things to think about.

If it were me I would be highly tempted to try another (non flu) IUI cycle. But I too agree that IVF will get you that baby (babies) you and DH so want to have, KWIM?

[~*Jackie*~]

I know it isn't an overnight decision, but I am really leaning towards not doing any more IUI's and just going to the Orientation in 3 weeks (from today!!) and preparing financially and mentally for an early 2010 IVF schedule. Of course, DH and I have to talk more about it, which we'll do after the Orientation. I'm just at my breaking point now. I wasn't sure how far I could carry myself, but I've sort of stalled out and am ready to move on or be done.

[Kari_B]

I hope that you and DH can come to a decision that is best for you both. I think with the endo I would be scared to not go on BCP for awhile and then try IVF. Doing more IUI's just might give the endo a chance to take over again...

It's a tough choice but I know in the end whatever you guys decide will be the right choice for you both!!! Good luck and HUGS!!!!

[snsgirl336]

Aww Jackie, I'm sorry you're stuck and feeling down. I don't know what I would do if I were in your shoes. I would totally be tempted to do a healthy IUI, but the practical side of me would say- save that money for IVF.
I know you and your DH will make the right decision for you guys. It might take a little time, but you'll know what the right thing for you guys to do is! Lots of Hugs!

[~*Jackie*~]

Thanks, ladies.

DH & I spoke a bit about this stuff tonight. We are both in agreement to NOT do anymore IUI's, so that is that. I know in my gut that is the right decision.

I am going to take the next cycle (or two depending on how long it is) off of doctor's appointments, IUI's, and supplements. Today was the first day I have NOT taken Maca Root since after my surgery, and I am done with it- it obviously hasn't done anything special. DH is really anxious to go to the IVF Orientation so he can learn about the whole process, etc. I was actually shocked that he told me he was anxious to go... he said I know so much about it and he doesn't know anything, so he's very interested. Now, that is to say he is NOT 100% on board with actually doing IVF, but I think once he's educated on it a bit, we'll be going ahead with it.

In the meantime, after this next cycle, I will decide whether or not I want to just go back on BCP (due to the endo) until we cycle in. Lots of decisions coming up, and I'm not so thrilled about them, but it's what I have to work with right now...