[Gina1978]

Ok..Iv been thnking long and hard about this,and I really could need some honest opinions.
Iv been TTC for 6 months now and after this months chart,I really dont think Iv stood a chance in all this time,I really dont think Im ovulating..I seem to get ready to do so,but right at the last minute,it doesnt happen.
I started spotting this afternoon and now its gone (I dont know what thats all about) and basicly,my cycles are proving to be long and hard for me.
Iv been to 2 OB´s in these past 6 months,Iv also spoken to a couple over the phone and seen regular doctors,and all of them told me that because Im young and already have 2 kids,I should have no problems what so ever and that I should just sit back and wait.One even laughed at the fact that I chart because she said it was primitive and useless.
I just cant get any doctors to help me or to want to do any tests and at this point,Im not whining because Im not pregnant,Im whining because I dont think Im Oing.
See,I can get Clomid over the counter here..we dont need a prescription to get any meds.So,I was thinking about trying Clomid (50mg,the smallest dose) for 1 cycle.
I wont try it for more than that without seeing an OB.I was thinking about taking it my next cycle,and seeing a new OB and telling him/her what I did kwim?
That way,he/she could start helping me right away because Im already a few steps ahead,kwim? (what with charting,clomid etc)
What would you do? Should I do this? Or should I just sit back and wait until I can find an OB who considers Iv waited long enough to do anything for me
Im not trying to get pregnant faster,dont get me wrong..but I DO want to feel like I have a chance each cycle.
Am I crazy for even thinking about doing this? Please give me your honest opinions

[Bug-n-Ed]

I don't know if I would without a doc knowing.

If you really don't think you are ovulating, they can run a cd21 bloodtest to determine if you are or aren't. This checks your progesterone level. I hate that they are assuming just because you are young that you can't have fertility problems. Have you considered seeing a midwife? I know that certified nurse midwives here can order bloodtests and such and they are usually more compassionate than docs are.

[Gina1978]

I don't know if I would without a doc knowing.

If you really don't think you are ovulating, they can run a cd21 bloodtest to determine if you are or aren't. This checks your progesterone level. I hate that they are assuming just because you are young that you can't have fertility problems. Have you considered seeing a midwife? I know that certified nurse midwives here can order bloodtests and such and they are usually more compassionate than docs are.[/b]

The problem with the CD21 bloodtest is that I dont have 28 day cycles,I dont O before CD30+..my cycles are over 50 days long.They are all over the place.
My first new OB told me to do those CD21 tests even though I explained very clearly that it would do no good because I dont O before then,and she told me to take progesterone after CD14,she told me to take it for 10 days and that it would shorten my cycle.
Well,it did! But she forgot to mention that taking progesterone too early in my cycle would actually prevent me from Oing! It would act like BCP.
I was SO angry so I changed OB´s and the next one was worse than the last..she basicly said that charting was rubbish and that I was worrying over nothing because I already have 2 kids

[Blue Eyes 409]

from what I hear cycles that long make it harder to get pregnant. I think that your DR should work with you! My Dr worked with me and gave me Clomid and I got my BFP the 1st cycle on it. Do you get EWCM? If not I sure would try the Clomid CD 5-9. I can't believe that you can get it over the counter!

[Gina1978]

from what I hear cycles that long make it harder to get pregnant. I think that your DR should work with you! My Dr worked with me and gave me Clomid and I got my BFP the 1st cycle on it. Do you get EWCM? If not I sure would try the Clomid CD 5-9. I can't believe that you can get it over the counter![/b]

Not only can I get it over the counter,but its cheaper than Soy isoflavones! (which is a natural similar version of Clomid).
The soy costs 17euros (about $20) and the Clomid costs 5euros (about $6) for a box of 10 capsules.

[dzine21]

My honest opinion? I've known gals on these boards that have bought clomid over the internet without dr supervision. I don't remember how things worked out-I didn't pay much attention to them. I wish I could remember. I think you should visit a dr and speak with them about your cycles. Not about TTC. Make it clear that you have been off of BCP for 6 months and you just don't have a regular period. This isn't about you being fertile. It's about getting your hormones worked out. It took me over a year for mine to work out naturally. I wasn't preventing or trying at the time. Here it is 2.5 years and 2 m/c later. I know I need to find a dr now to help me. There's something we are missing-we just need to find it. I say work on getting your hormones on track first then ttc. There is bound to be a dr there that will help.

[brandiruss]

When I talked to my family practice doctor about TTC, I explained to him that my mother had tried for 10 years to get pregnant with me (unexplained infertility) and another ten years after me before calling in quits at the age of 40. My mother and I have ALWAYS had very erratic cycles. I basically just don't have periods. After explaining to my doctor that I didn't want to wait a year before getting on Clomid he suggested (I know this is going to sound bad to some of you) that I find an OB and simply say that I have been TTC longer than I actually have. He said there is no harm in being put on Clomid soon afer TTC, but most doctors were taught to wait a year...good luck!


Brandi

[Gina1978]

(I know this is going to sound bad to some of you) that I find an OB and simply say that I have been TTC longer than I actually have.[/b]

That doesnt sound bad at all..infact,after my first new OB,I decided to lie about how long I had been TTC when I found a new one.So when I found my second OB,I told her that we had started trying at the beggining of last year.I thought that that way Id get some awnsers (tests etc)...but I didnt,infact,she just laughed at the fact that I charted and made me feel stupid.
She said that I already have 2 kids so I obvioulsy wasnt infertile..Im just not a priority to doctors because I already have 2 kids!
I mean,who the heck are they to lay out the rules on how many kids I can have/want? Why do they think that I should be ok with the 2 I have?
It bugs the hell out of me because I feel like saying "yes,I have 2 kids!!!.But I want a third!!! Will you stop telling me that you wont help me because Im already a mom!!!!!!!"

[brandiruss]

Well, I know there is such a thing as secondary infertility. My neighbor works at the local hospital so she sees it all the time. She also experienced it while TTC her second child....I would suggest just going to different doctors until one of them listens....I'm planning on stretching the truth about how long I've been TTC if I don't get preggo this cycle. I'm just not willing to wait a year to get answers, call me weak, but I just can't WAIT that long! My friend told me about her OB who was very quick to put her on Clomid when she couldn't conceive...I'm planning on talking to that doctor first!

Good luck to you!
Brandi

See I don't ovulate either.

This is what I would do. Since the dr's won't listen to you and before going on a strong drug such as clomid. I would try this. Go on birth control for 2 months. On your 3rd month stop, baby dance like there's NO tomorrow. This MAY fool your body into dropping a egg and having a normal 28 day cycle. This got me pregnant with my 2nd even when fertility drugs wouldn't. I'm also trying this method againw ith our 3rd. I would also DEMAND the dr's do something. After all YOUR the one paying them!! Would you buy a pair of shoes and keep them if they was uncomfortable?? No you'd return them!! SO GIRL Do the same with your dr!! I would demand he run tests on your ovaries do a complete blood work up and also ask him to do a HSG on your tubes just to make sure you don't have anything wrong with them that may be blocking them.

BELIEVE ME I know how frustrating it is!! I"ve been trying for 2.5 years.

[Gina1978]

Go on birth control for 2 months. On your 3rd month stop, baby dance like there's NO tomorrow. This MAY fool your body into dropping a egg and having a normal 28 day cycle.[/b]

I couldent go back on BCP after all Iv been through since I stopped it back in July..thats the whole reason Im in this mess
Id been on it for 7 years and my body has just forgotten what to do.
Im so sorry you have been TTC for so long,has your doctor given you any solutions at all? I hope it doesnt take much longer for you

has your doctor given you any solutions at all?[/b]

Yea, I have PCOS and its just something I have to live with. They want to put me on clomid, but I don't want the hormonal side effects it puts you thru. I've had surgeries, HSG's and had my meformin upped several times. Still no bfp', so I thought I"d try the birth control method to get pregnant again since that worked for me before.

I"m sorry that b/c has screwed ur body. I really don't have any solutions for you bc I"ve exaspirated all of my own options and there really isn't that many options that doesn't involve some sort of pain or something that turns u into a hormonal maniac

Good luck hon!!! I hope you can get your dr's to listen. I know what your going thru.