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November 22nd, 2013, 11:23 PM
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I'm starting to get nervous about being induced. I don't want to be induced and the more I think about it the more it freaks me out. DH has never liked the idea but has kept his mouth shut for the most part. He only tells me his concerns about it when I bring up my worries about it. I saw someone post this link and I have to admit it caused more stress.

21 Reasons to Say No to Pitocin According to Manufacturer | SicklyCat.com

I feel like at this point, since I haven't had any problems, maybe being induced isn't a good idea. I think my doctor feels like since there were no issues with my first pregnancy, it would be safer to induce instead of risk the unknown happening again. But I don't want to risk Toren's health just because I'm too paranoid to wait an extra week or two. I don't know... What would you do if you were me?

My next appointment is on Monday. Should I bring it up to my doctor? If I do is he going to make me feel like all of a sudden there ARE issues and scare me into being induced just because that's whats convenient for him? I know it's horrible to say that about my dr but I don't trust him 100%. Most people have told me to switch doctors but he's the best out of the options I have to choose from.
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November 23rd, 2013, 12:01 AM
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I personally am not against inductions for good reason... I think your reason is a HUGE reason and I personally would want to be induced. I also don't mind indicated inductions, post dates inductions etc. I see people get induced everyday at work and 98% of them turn out fine. Also, since your a second time mom and already delivered a baby an induction is going to be a lot easier on your body than a first time mom who has never dilated and or delivered a baby. All our doctors induce at work... And most women here actually have elective inductions at 39 weeks (if they aren't a first time mom, first time moms have to wait till 41)

This is completely your choice. But if I was in your shoes I would induce. But make sure you make the best decision for your family.
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November 23rd, 2013, 12:08 AM
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I also read that article and I don't believe half of it. I haven't seen almost any of that happen on our floor just because of the Pitocin. I have seen Pitocin SAVE lives due to severe bleeding. One thing I have learned is you can't believe everything you read on the internet. Sure, does Pitocin have risks? Yes. But EVERY medication does. If I showed doctors at work that... They would probably laugh. :/
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November 23rd, 2013, 07:06 AM
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First of all, everyone is nervous about childbirth, even ladies who have gone through it before.

Secondly, no birth goes according to plan, meaning: All these homebirth, waterbirth, drug free, music birth, "I'm going to have a shaman deliver my baby in Tibet" women usually end up with an Epidural in a hospital at the last minute without Beethoven playing in the background.

Third, turn off Dr. Google. A hard thing to do. Pitocin is so widely used. And it saves lives. Are there risks? Of course, but there are also risks driving to the hospital to deliver too. Remember, hospitals and doctors have you and your baby's best interest in mind. They don't risk anything, they can't. They can't afford the liability.

Should you talk to your OB? Absolutely. You will get better, more thorough and medically factual answers from your OB. Not for nothing, but a website called "Sicklycat.com" is not high on my "trusted for facts" list.

And just about every birth involves pitocin or some medicine to help speed contractions along. Even a c-sec. When I delivered via c-sec, I was given pitocin afterwards to assist with delivery of uterine contents. Because that is the body's natural way of cleansing.

So take some deep breaths. Talk to your OB and remember that nerves are natural.
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November 23rd, 2013, 08:42 AM
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I agree with the others- particularly about how "sicklycat.com" isn't likely the most reliable source. Many, many drugs have very safe, common off-label uses. If you read ANY medication's insert, it'll be full of information, warnings, contraindications just like that- but taking it out of context without the full picture isn't a good idea.

Talk to your OB.
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November 23rd, 2013, 09:28 AM
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Read through the article. It honestly reads completely like a scare tactic, with littls real information. First thing you have to keep in mind is that manufacturers have to list EVERY POSSIBLE bad thing that could even REMOTELY happen to cover their butts. Even if they don't actually have any real record of it happening, they have to list everything that COULD POSSIBLY happen to keep from getting sued on the off chance that it does to one person.

"Pitocin is not indicated for elective induction of labor" just means that the drug wasn't originally designed/invented for that particular use. Which happens a LOT of times. Viagra being one (it was originally a blood pressure med, I think?)



Now, it really is up to you. Me, personally, I have found that the stress of going over my loss point and the worry of what happens to the baby REALLY starts affecting me at the end, and it is better for both me and baby physically to just have them be born. I'm 4 for 4 so far. 4 inductions with pitocin, 4 vaginal births without any real complications. External fetal monitoring was fine for all of them, though they did put an internal one on Patrick to check his oxygen levels because his position was funky and head heart rate was doing weird things. But we still had the external heart rate monitor on him. And all he had was a tiny little scab on his scalp.



Right now, of course you're worried. You're worried about EVERYTHING. I always am, and this is #5 for me! It's natural, especially when we've been through what we've been through, to worry that everything's going to go catastrophically wrong again. It's hard, being where we are. It's hard to believe that it COULD go well, that you will end up with a healthy baby at the end. ((hugs)) I'm there too, and all my subsequent Ls&Ds have been amazing.

Talking to your doctor about your valid worries is not unwarranted.
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November 23rd, 2013, 09:58 AM
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I'm sorry ame. I can imagine what a scary place you're in. I say trust you're instinct. You are the gardian of this baby. If you feel there are questions to ask and your husband feels that he has an opinion as well- then you TWO should make an appt with the OB to discuss the plans. Feel confident about the decision you and your husband make. Please update.
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November 23rd, 2013, 10:24 AM
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Hugs Amy...

I'm gonna give you my two cents... and keep in mind that those cents are coming from someone that had planned a natural, birth center water birth and ended up being induced (due to a very slightly elevated blood pressure) and having a csection. So I'm not happy with how Regan's birth went and I'm sure that colors my opinions...

I think that inductions, like c-sections, are overused. I think that doctors not only use them for convenience, but because they'd rather have the baby on the outside because then they have control and can deal with whatever happens. I think that, when it is possible, it is best to let the baby and your body decide when it's time to come out. I think that we've been trained by the medical establishment to trust our doctors over our own bodies and that that is wrong. Edited to add: I don't think that inductions are inherently bad, they are necessary sometimes and have helped a lot of people jump start labor and avoid csections, which is great! I just think that all birth interventions are overused!

That being said, I think that if waiting is going to cause you an unbearable amount of stress (and thereby cause the baby stress), you have a very valid reason to be induced. Just be aware that if you are induced before your body is ready you have a significantly increased chance of ending up with a csection. I would also say that if your doc tells you that you could try cytotec before pitocin, be careful. That stuff is actually dangerous and is not approved by the FDA for induction. We started with cervadil to try and "ripen" my cervix a little before we did the pit...

All of this is basically to say, good for you for thinking about this and even to someone a little anti-induction, like me... I don't think you can make a wrong choice here. I think you should talk to your doc, and if you trust him/her, the two of you should make a plan that will work for you. I can't imagine how hard the next few weeks are going to be for you, or how much fear you must be feeling. I'm sending you so much love and hopes that you can have peace with whatever you choose and enjoy the joy that's coming to you when you get to hold that beautiful baby boy!
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November 23rd, 2013, 10:32 AM
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Inductions, thank god, are here for a reason. In your case, I would hands down, no thought about it, have one in a heart beat. Especially when then there is no known cause for what happened in your first pregnancy. On these boards, you will hear alot of women post articles of anti induction, its hard not to let that cloud your judgement. YOU ARE THE REASON inductions are planned, YOU are the reason inductions are valid. Induction IMO saves lives, pitocin saves lives. Now, if you are more comfortable without having one, are against it for your own reasons, your anxiety is not through the roof at this point and want to labor on your own, than by all means talk to your dr. Any decision you make is the RIGHT one, your this baby's mama, its your decision!
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November 23rd, 2013, 02:11 PM
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Thank you so much ladies! Your replies got me back in a sane place. For a short while I was driving myself crazy over this issue. I do have a lot of worries and fears that I try to bottle up and push aside but they are always there, haunting me. I'm not going to fixate on a decision just yet. And I'm going to allow myself to be open to different birthing outcomes that don't necessarily fit into my "dream plan". For example csections scare the pants off of me! But, I would willingly be cut all over if it meant my baby would be safe. I think my main issue right now is I'm so scared something, anything is going to go wrong. And yes something COULD go wrong, but I have to keep telling myself that the chances of me losing another baby back to back, this far along are so slim. As the guardian of this baby I want to avoid every bad possible outcome I can, but I can't let fear push me into making stupid decisions. I have to stay level headed. I can't let my emotions take control. Only a few more weeks, I can do this, I can do this!!

Ahhhh, I CAN do this!!!! *bites nails*
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November 23rd, 2013, 03:21 PM
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You CAN do this! And you will!!! Hang in there ame!!
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November 23rd, 2013, 06:51 PM
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The only thing I would mention, is to allow yourself to feel and be empowered when the birth takes place. Trust your intuition, no matter how strange it may seem at the time. Don't be embarrassed to be vocal, even combative if need be about what you feel is best for Toren. "Homebirth in the Hospital" by Stacy Marie Kerr is a great book about trusting your body to do what it's made to do, and allowing things to progress naturally in labor. Even though your plan is to be induced, you should still be able to have some control over what's going on.
And especially if you don't trust your doctor 100%, be willing to go against what he says if you feel it is best. Ask questions if you're not sure you like the idea of something he suggests or even says is critical to the health of your baby.

One thing that I have read, and I probably mentioned this somewhere awhile back, is that a few doctors (not saying yours does, but just in case) practice something called "Pit to distress". If they are in a big hurry to go home and feel their patients are taking too long to labor and get it over with, then they just crank up the Pitocin until the baby goes into distress and then order a C-section.
Because of what you said about not trusting your doctor, that's the only reason I mention that. And I don't want you to feel paranoid about the birth, so I don't mention it for that reason, I just want you to know that not all doctors have mom's best interest at heart, so go with your gut, and enlist your husband to be your advocate. If doulas weren't something that was expensive, I'd say hire a doula to be with you, they are great for advocating for laboring mamas and helping them through that whole process.
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November 23rd, 2013, 08:29 PM
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I don't know where you live but our hospital and our labor unit have protocols to protect moms and babies from something like "pit to distress". That would never, ever EVER happen on our floor. Ever. So if it makes you feel better maybe look into protocols at your hospital. If a doctor was doing that at our hospital... We would for sure make sure they lost their rights. That is so wrong.
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November 23rd, 2013, 10:34 PM
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Many doulas will work with you on pricing. So if this is something you're interested in, check out:
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November 24th, 2013, 08:57 AM
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Kayla, I'm glad to hear that! Thanks for the positive note there.
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November 24th, 2013, 01:36 PM
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I just wanted to wish you the best, Amy! I'm sure you will figure out which is best for you and your baby. And it sounds like you got a lot of good info here! I still can't believe how close you are getting!
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November 24th, 2013, 02:47 PM
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Thank you Lindsey The time has gone by really fast for me too. Even I can't believe how close I'm getting, lol. Just a few more (hopefully short) weeks left, and with all the Holidays coming up I'm sure the time will keep flying by.
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November 24th, 2013, 07:21 PM
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I don't have any other advice to offer, but wanted to send some hugs and I know you and your DH will choose what's best for you. I'm so excited for you that you're so close.
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November 25th, 2013, 06:39 AM
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Hugs Ame!! I was induced with my daughter at 39 weeks, had complications, however, I don't believe they were related to being induced She was happy and healthy. I know lots of ladies who have been induced with no problems. I think you will be just fine. I agree with everyone else, do what's best for you and baby! I really wish you had a Dr. that you felt more comfortable with, I think that would help you tremedously!
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November 25th, 2013, 07:58 AM
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Amy sorry I am just now responding. I haven't been on JM at all this weekend.

Just to let you know my experience with inductions and for the most part they were good experiences. With Jackson I was induced at 39 weeks. There was no medical reason at all for the induction. We just did it out of conveinience. At that time I had no knowledge about waiting for the birth to happen. My dr told me the induction would be fine so I just listened to him and thought it would be a good idea. He had me come in the night before and gave me something to help soften my cervix and then the next morning he came in and broke my water. My contractions started pretty quickly and somehow I didn't even need any pitocin. I know that is not the case with alot of inductions but I guess my body was just ready so I got through that induction with no pitocin at all.

With Jacob's I was also inducted at 39 weeks 1 day but with him I had dialated to 3cm at 33 weeks and stayed that way for 6 weeks. I also tested positive for GBS with him and my dr wanted to go ahead and induce at 39 weeks because my membranes had been exposed for so long that he didn't want to risk Jacob getting the infection. i trust my dr completely so we never even questioned we just went in and was induced. again somehow I did not need any pitocin. I dialated very quickly. My only problem with his birth was that darn epi but other than that his delivery went fine.

so hopefully if you are induced somehow you won't need any pitocin either. Just my 2 cents I think I would go ahead and induce at 38 weeks. I'm sure that if you didn't induce Toren would be fine but I'm afraid that you might just go crazy with worry if you didn't get him out around 38 weeks.
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