[w292737]

I guess Osama has been executed by US Forces?

I don't follow all of that, really I don't care too much, to be perfectly honest. I went and took a bath rather then wait for the president, and checked my FB to see what it was all about after and then I watched Reruns of The Unit and went to bed.

So any thoughts on this?

[~Rae~]

I didn't hear about it until this morning because I went to bed right before 10pm.
My thought is that it doesn't really matter. There are probably 50 more ready and willing to take his place.

[~*Nicole*~]

I think it would be a good thing... if they hadn't "buried" his body at sea therefore basically begging any and all "conspiracy theorists" to question the validity of his death.

My thought is that it doesn't really matter. There are probably 50 more ready and willing to take his place.

I think most people are not thinking about the fact that there are more to take his place... they're just glad that we got the guy who most people feel was responsible for all the deaths on 9/11.

[SewDivine]

I have mixed feelings. I am glad he was taken out. I don't think the world needs someone like him in it. For all the lives he has taken, I feel the death penalty is more then justified, and long over due.

My worry is that this is going to cause his followers and others an excuse to hate more and we will be even more under attack.

[Tamara0711]

Originally Posted by SewDivine

I have mixed feelings. I am glad he was taken out. I don't think the world needs someone like him in it. For all the lives he has taken, I feel the death penalty is more then justified, and long over due.

My worry is that this is going to cause his followers and others an excuse to hate more and we will be even more under attack.

My thoughts exactly!!

[~*Nicole*~]

My worry is that this is going to cause his followers and others an excuse to hate more and we will be even more under attack.

This kind of worries me as well. But, I think that national security is probably heightened right now and will stay that way for a while.

[SewDivine]

Originally Posted by ~*Nicole*~

I think it would be a good thing... if they hadn't "buried" his body at sea therefore basically begging any and all "conspiracy theorists" to question the validity of his death.

I guess they did DNA test first. But I think no matter where they buried him people always have their conspiracy theory. But my husband made a good point to me about why at Sea. If we had him here in the US the body would never be left alone. If it was anywhere else people could build of a memorial and we don't want that.

[~Rae~]

Originally Posted by ~*Nicole*~

I think most people are not thinking about the fact that there are more to take his place... they're just glad that we got the guy who most people feel was responsible for all the deaths on 9/11.

Very true, but I don't find any solace in it. It doesn't bring back one person who died that day. It rages on and on.

[Brittanie]

I wish he could have been taken alive and held to trial, personally.


And as for it giving them one more reason to hate us...well...they don't need reasons, so it doesn't really matter. I don't think there's anything we could do to make them *not* hate us, so we just need to protect ourselves. And sure there are others to replace him, but they may not have as much charisma and such as he had to get that many people to work together. *shrugs* I don't think we're in any more danger now than we already were before.

[~*Nicole*~]

Very true, but I don't find any solace in it. It doesn't bring back one person who died that day. It rages on and on.

I agree. I'm sick of all the hatred. I wish I could go back and be a hippie and live by the motto "an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind." World peace!!!

I wish he could have been taken alive and held to trial, personally.

I would have to say that this would be a waste of a lot of the money we don't have! He would have been found guilty and sentenced to death anyway. I doubt the guilty verdict would have weighed very heavily on his soul

[~Rae~]

^ Yes, I agree! I just wish it could be over for good. I don't think we'll ever see the end of it in our lifetime. They are still fighting about religion over there. I think until that ends we won't be fortunate enough to not fear retaliation for SOME reason from them.

[way2gomom]

The news this morning reported that the SEALs gave him the option to surrender, but he used his son as a human shield, instead. There was also a woman that was used as a human shield by one of the other men in the fight. They initially confirmed his identity through facial recognition using photographs of his body and known photographs of him. They also used a DNA match from his deceased sister to confirm.

As Emily's husband said, his body was buried at sea to prevent any shrines or memorials. It was also reported that he was buried according to Islamic law. In my opinion, this was a good decision.

Here is a more detailed report than most: Virginia Beach-based SEALs were tasked to kill bin Laden | HamptonRoads.com | PilotOnline.com

His death is in no way recompense for those who lost loved ones at his hands or from his actions. There will be more terrorist leaders. Most of the ones who are in place to potentially be his successor are said to not be nearly as charismatic or inspirational, which may help to lessen the danger from that group. But others will come.

Tangentially, he was killed on the same day that Hitler committed suicide.

[~*Nicole*~]

The news this morning reported that the SEALs gave him the option to surrender, but he used his son as a human shield, instead. There was also a woman that was used as a human shield by one of the other men in the fight. They initially confirmed his identity through facial recognition using photographs of his body and known photographs of him. They also used a DNA match from his deceased sister to confirm.

I also read that those who were protecting him, his bodyguards, were ordered to kill him themselves before they allowed him to be captured. He really, really didn't want to be kept alive in U.S. custody.

[tiffany&co.]

I think it is wonderful news. I'm not naive enough to think that this is the end of terrorism by ANY means, but it does mean one little bit of justice for the families of those killed on 9/11. Every bit as significant as Hilter or any other horrible, murderous person dying or being executed. I'm sure he is answering for what he did in this life WHEREVER he is right now, and that thought brings me some peace.

OH, and can we get a shout out for the amazingly brave men and women who carried out this operation!? I am so thankful for our troops and so proud to be an American right now.

[w292737]

This might sound like an incredibly stupid question... BUT, where his only crimes against the US? where as with Saddam he had crimes against his own people, so it was captured and placed on trial there, and sentenced to death and carried out. I'm assuming this was not an option against Osama?

[way2gomom]

al-Qaeda has performed widespread acts of terrorism. Other Muslim groups were no longer taken seriously because of the 'ideology of violence' that spread from al-Qaeda. Pakistan says that his death is a 'major setback' to terrorist groups. Saudi Arabia, his native country, hopes that his death will help 'dismantle terror cells and undermine the ideology behind them'. His death was welcomed in Yemen - his ancestral hometown - by both Saleh and his opposition.
Mideast Shrugs Off Bin Laden as Revolts Sideline Al-Qaeda - Businessweek

That's the way terrorism works, though. They could not have that kind of control, funding and intelligence by being peaceful citizens of their own country. Their promotion of suicide bombers kills their countrymen in addition to the children and al-Qaeda members who strap on the bombs. They have killed in many countries, terrorizing many peoples.

The justice and legal systems of the Mid East are very different from our systems. He could've been brought here to stand trial, but it would've been a circus at best. But as Nicole said, he may not have made it if we hadn't killed him because his followers were under orders to kill him first.

[w292737]

The justice and legal systems of the Mid East are very different from our systems. He could've been brought here to stand trial, but it would've been a circus at best. But as Nicole said, he may not have made it if we hadn't killed him because his followers were under orders to kill him first.

I'm thinking if he did (say we captured him no one killed him, us or them) they way our legal system works, he would die a natural (or stravation) death on Death row before he was actually executed.

[andi2284]

And as for it giving them one more reason to hate us...well...they don't need reasons, so it doesn't really matter. I don't think there's anything we could do to make them *not* hate us, so we just need to protect ourselves. And sure there are others to replace him, but they may not have as much charisma and such as he had to get that many people to work together. *shrugs* I don't think we're in any more danger now than we already were before.

Agreed!

This might sound like an incredibly stupid question... BUT, where his only crimes against the US? where as with Saddam he had crimes against his own people, so it was captured and placed on trial there, and sentenced to death and carried out. I'm assuming this was not an option against Osama?

No, I believe he was responsible for many acts of terrorism against different countries. Someone on another board from the UK (I think?) mentioned the date 7/7, but I'm not sure exactly what that refers to.

As a former military wife, I'm proud of our soldiers. This was a main mission and one of the reasons we are in the middle east right now. I would never say someone deserved to die, but I do feel relief that he is gone. It doesn't mean the end of terrorism or the end of the war over there, but it's a huge victory. He was an evil man who only spread his evil ideas to others. He would not have been taken alive, so I don't think there was any other way to stop him, as much as I hate the thought of killing another human being. There's definitely some mixed emotions about it all, but relief is the biggest that comes to mind.

[MommaSunshine]

Originally Posted by ~Rae~

There are probably 50 more ready and willing to take his place.

I agree, unfortunately there probably are. I just found it a little sketchy how quick they were to get his body into the ocean. I know that they were trying to follow religion in that case, but they had until sundown (I can't remember if it was tonight or tomorrow). I know theres DNA evidence I guess, ehh, i dont know, i guess im just a skeptic after these 10 years that its taken to finally catch up with him. I just hope there is no retaliation.

[w292737]

so much for staying out of it and not caring I just got into it with my cousin on FB over all this (yes the same cousin who just bugs me) but any how...