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June 18th, 2012, 10:48 PM
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Since I was having contractions on Saturday, I decided that I wanted to see some images of babies born at 21/22 weeks so that I could visualize what Jamison would look like IF god forbid, he came this early. BAD IDEA...in addition to the images of perfect, sweet preemies, google also pulled up the pics of babies at this gestation who had been electively aborted. Not trying to start a debate, but HOW does someone live with themselves after aborting a baby this far along in pregnancy for purely elective reasons? It just makes me want to burst into tears
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June 18th, 2012, 10:51 PM
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I've done the same thing with trying to look at pics of baby's at this age... Some pretty horrendous stuff has come up. It's hard for me to even have a stance on abortion. I can see valid points from both sides. It's just a sad topic in general
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June 18th, 2012, 10:59 PM
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I can't even imagine what the women must be going through to make such a drastic choice this far along. My heart goes out to them for having to make such a hard decision, and for having to live with the knowledge of that choice for the rest of their lives. It's all around a sad thing... I wish I knew some women's stories so I could try to understand their decision.
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June 18th, 2012, 11:03 PM
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June 18th, 2012, 11:32 PM
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Unless it is for medical reasons, I am not one who believes that abortion is EVER the only option. When my OB and I were talking about prenatal testing earlier in this pregnancy and she asked if I wanted the test for down's, I mentioned to her that I had read that 90% of down's syndrome babies are aborted. She said that she believed it, and that her personal stance was that whatever choice is made comes with significant emotional and physical hardship. I totally agree with her. Obviously abortion is a tragedy from the standpoint of a fetus not reaching term, but it also can take a huge emotional toll on the mother, which is equally devastating. My heart goes out to the women who have been through it, for whatever reasons, and my heart truly breaks for the babies that could have been.
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June 19th, 2012, 03:33 AM
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That is really sad. Sorry you got upset by seeing this; I've made the mistake to look on google as well. You have to be very specific with what you search for otherwise some sad and gruesome stuff comes up!
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June 19th, 2012, 05:59 AM
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Now I know not to google it. It is very sad and like others have said it would be nice to hear some stories to better understand the decision they made.
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June 19th, 2012, 06:02 AM
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Yep that's why I don't google stuff like that, I can't take to see those images.
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June 19th, 2012, 07:20 AM
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I never thought of googling it, now I know not to. The topic of abortion is difficult. As someone who has lost a baby she wished for so much I find it hard to agree with the idea of abortion. But I can understand some people making that decision, too-- they must be in a very difficult position to make this harsh choice. Of course, on the other hand, some have stupid reasons for it, that I can't agree with.

My mom got pregnant- she must have been in her early fourties, if I recall - and she aborted the pregnancy, I believe around 9 or 10 weeks. She wanted the baby, but she feared she couldn't handle it, especially financially, but also physically. She's had three children already, and she has a lot of physical problems. Her back is a complete mess, her knees are bad, and at the time she was much overweight. It was a tough decision, but I understand, and she feels horrible about having made that decision - today still.

On the other hand, I heard of a woman aborting a pregnancy because she wasn't married at the time and thought that was wrong! That I can not understand and I can not sympathize with. That is just so wrong on so many levels!
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June 19th, 2012, 08:35 AM
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I've done the same thing and it absolutely made me sick and broke my heart.

Those people are absolute MONSTERS!
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June 19th, 2012, 08:40 AM
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I've done the same thing and it absolutely made me sick and broke my heart...
It also makes me sick. I must be in the minority, as I don't believe abortion is okay at any stage, under any circumstances. I believe in adoption.
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June 19th, 2012, 08:53 AM
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Yeah I agree, with consenting to sex you should consent to the natural outcome.
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June 19th, 2012, 10:04 AM
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I'm a bit shocked that it seems appropriate to call these people monsters, when we don't know the stories and don't know the women and their situations. That's unnecessarily harsh. I love a healthy pro-choice/anti-choice debate, but there's no need to make such vicious judgements on women who clearly weren't facing an easy decision...
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June 19th, 2012, 10:31 AM
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I don't like calling names, but I can see where it comes from. When you hear about a person who kidnaps and kills an innocent child, most people's response is to call the murderer a monster. No one ever says anything about name-calling until it's an unborn child. I believe abortion is murder. It's taking an innocent life. Just something to think about.
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June 19th, 2012, 10:38 AM
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I can see where it comes from too. Some things are better left unsaid.
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June 19th, 2012, 11:00 AM
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Yeah I agree, with consenting to sex you should consent to the natural outcome.
that's easy to say, but some women who consent do prevent and it still happens sometimes. Like my older sister - though she had the child, he's a healthy 14 years old boy now. I don't know if she thought about abortion.

I do agree though that if you don't prevent, you should think about what you're doing and whether or not you're ready/willing to have a baby.





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I used to think that abortion is murder - I still kind of do, but at the same time I don't like ignoring the shades of gray on the topic and marking it black with no exceptions.
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June 19th, 2012, 11:15 AM
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I'm just saying that I tend to be very open minded with victims of non-consensual sex but I have a harder time when grown adults make choices on their own to go through with an act that's intended to create a child and then want to take drastic measures when the natural result occurs.
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June 19th, 2012, 11:15 AM
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wow SOOOOOOOOOOOOO SORRY you had to see that... I try to stay away from google... and this is one of the reasons... hope you can get those images out of your mind...
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June 19th, 2012, 02:33 PM
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Maybe this makes me a you-know-what, but here is how I see it. If you have sex, you should be mature enough to deal with potential pregnancy - birth control of any form is NOT 100%. These are the only reasons that abortion is even understandable - mama or baby's life is at risk, birth defect would give them a very short or painful life. That's it. If you were raped, there is ADOPTION - sorry but I've been through that, MORE than once (rape, not pregnancy from it) and you can get through it for 9 months - if it's too emotionally painful to keep the baby there is adoption.

Not even just from the "adoption is murder" perspective (which, by the way, it is. you're terminating a life). I have friends who have gotten one (she didn't want it, her boyfriend was abusive and he essentially forced her to get it) - she got it professional, done the "right way" and all that. And now that she is out of that bad relationship and married, they can't have kids - because of that. There are ALWAYS people who can't have kids and want them. If you don't want yours, give them the best gift you could ever give a person. Give them a child, give your child a good loving home and the life they deserve.
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June 19th, 2012, 06:40 PM
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Pro-life Mom here! I had a very serious complication with my 2nd pregnancy which resulted in 3 different doctors trying to convince me to abort. They told me that I could die. I refused and today I have a very beautiful and healthy DD
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