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Most of you saw on FB yesterday that Kaija has been getting sick during the night and yesterday afternoon, for about a week. DH and I have been talking it through and trying to pinpoint different things that might be causing it. While chatting I realized that it seems to happen every few months. Then as DH got thinking about it he realized that it does happen every few months AND it ALWAYS correlates with a visit either to my parents house or by my parents to our house. It doesn't matter if we travel or they travel. The day of Kolbie's birthday party in March Kaija was sick and puking all day long, no other symptoms. When we got back from MI in July I had Kaija at the Dr. a week later because she'd been puking for no apparent reason. And now, we got back from MI last Wednesday and Thursday night she started her latest string of middle of the night puking. We even realized the first time she was really sick was in MI when we were all going to go to a hockey game and she threw up all over my parents kitchen on our way out the door - Kolbie was still a tiny baby at that point so it's been going on for a while now.
I took her to the Dr. today to try to figure it out. We're all pretty familiar with Kaija's BM issues and she used to hold her poo (and pee for that matter) when my family was around because she was too busy playing to want to get up and go. But she went with out problems while we were in MI and until yesterday was pretty regular. The Dr. even said her abdomen was soft today. Then the Dr. asked if she has a stressful relationship with my parents or brother.............I know she doesn't. We spend 99% of the time visiting them all together so I KNOW nothing has happened to her. But for some reason it still really bugs me that there could be something there. Maybe it's too much excitement? I don't know... but I hate that there's something there that's making her vomit after we visit with them. It's so freaking weird.
The Dr. mentioned a few possible options. One was just a variety of vomiting disorders - we'd have to figure out which one. Or possibly abdominal migraines and the excitement/stress of visting is triggering them. So we've been referred to a Pediatric GI to see if there is anything there first. If he doesn't come up with anything we'll go back to the regular Dr. and see about a pediatric neurologist I guess.
I've been wondering for a while if Kaija doesn't have some kind of sensory issues. Loud noises freak her out. She absolutely WILL.NOT use automatic flush toilets and about panics when she even sees one and has to go. She had a tearfilled meltdown in Sam's the other day because it was the only option and she wouldn't go. And there are a few other little things that have made me wonder lately. So I suppose if neither of those doctors can figure anything out, maybe some kind of therapist can.
I just want her to feel better. At least now I know I don't have to keep her home from school since it's not a bug... that did help make her feel a little better about it.
That's interesting. When do you see the specialist? I hope they can pinpoint the cause and fix it. I have stress related GI issues and have had them since I was 5 and moved to a new school that I didn't like. It's frustrating to say the least
interesting, I hope you can figure out what is going on with her! I also have stress GI issues it's no fun :/ and Sydney is also scared to death of auto flush toilets, she has a fit if she sees one, I remedy it by holding my hand over the sensor to assure it will not flush while she is sitting on it and for her that works and she will go but I can't move my hand until she is well out of the stall or she freaks out!
Well, I'm glad you've been able to pinpoint a potential cause. It does sound either stress related or overexcitement. How is her behaviour when you visit with your parents? Is she acting out more than usual? Is there any stress from either you or DH when it comes to visiting your family? I know with us, whenever we visit my MIL, Aidan is hardly ever at his best behaviour and I know a big chunk of that is because DH and I are usually completely stressed out while we're there and kiddos definitely pick up and reflect our own attitude and moods.
I've never heard of an abdominal migraine before, but I think it's good that you've gotten a referral to try to further pinpoint any physical issue that may be there.
I hope you guys can figure it out soon, this can't be much fun for you guys at all.
That's rough Mylene. I hope the drs are able to figure out what is making her feel sick. Jacob doesn't care for loud noises and hates those toilets too. One thing I read was to keep post it notes with you and you can put one over the sensor, then take it off when the child leaves the stall.
Please update us when you find out, I'll say a prayer that the drs can figure it out.
I'm still waiting on a call from the GI doctor to set up the appointment. Hopefully I hear from them today. The girls were alone with my parents and brother for 5 days this summer, that's the first time they were truly alone with them and this extends to way way before that visit. My brother is never alone with them, he's too learning disabled to care for himself, let alone the girls. And they've never acted strange around them. They both love the whole family and are never nervous around them. It does get a little stressful because it's a lot of people in a small space for an extended period of time, but no one fights or anything like that. Although I do know that kids will pick up on stress anyway, even if you don't think you're putting it out there. Honestly, if anything, they are more well behaved around my parents - especially if we aren't around. This summer after I got back the girls were acting NUTS and my mom commented that they hadn't been like that all week. She said she had no behavior problems at all.
I did a little Googling last night of the 2 things her Dr. mentioned. One was the abdominal migraines and the other is Cyclical Vomiting Syndrome. Both are pretty similar and are hard to diagnose and treat. She's got a number of signs of either one but both seem to be pretty extreme, so who knows. I'll definitely keep everyone posted once we see the GI. We've thought for a long time it was related to being so excited to see everyone her body can't handle it, and we could have been right.
Oh, and I'm definitely going to need to keep some post it notes in my purse! That will probably help! Thanks for that tip!
You could be onto something with the excitement. Aidan very rarely pukes. I could probably count on my fingers the amount of times he's done it, even when sick. But, there has been about 3 times that he has puked after being at a really hectic birthday party, the super hyper activity combined with the overdose of sugar from the cake seems to do him in.
One of the triggers for both the CVS and abdominal migraines is excitement/anxiety. So it definitely looks like a possibility. And we do sometimes get a little loose on what kinds of treats we let the girls have, so there's probably a little more sugar than normal.
The Dr. also suggested we start documenting when it happens/has happened so we've been trying to think back since forever to find all the times she's done this. I'm trying to remember if it's happened after any other trips or fun things we've done. I don't think it has, but I really can't remember.