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March 10th, 2013, 05:29 AM
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Has anyone been following MotherWise on Facebook? I really like the page, it has lots of good information about all things mothering. Yesterday a baby died. Routine circumcision. For what? To have a penis to look like dads? My boys have never ever stood around comparing their penis with their dad. Not once. I know all the arguments for and against. I cut my first 2 boys. And then with the power of the Internet I researched before Colton was born and chose to leave him intact. Circumcision kills more babies every year than faulty car seat use and SIDS combined. I'm not judging. I put my first boys through it. I'm learning more about it everyday. I've felt regret over my decision for 15 years, so I did my research. I wish I had known more 21 years ago. Anyways I needed to share. Babies dying has this effect on me. If anyone wants to learn more head over to MotherWise.
Ps I'm not looking for a debate. If anyone feels attacked please know that is not my intent. I've been on both sides too.
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March 10th, 2013, 06:08 AM
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I think that this sort of thing is one of the biggest reasons I didn't circ my son.

It's an unnecessary procedure that could take his life.
I had a friend whose baby hemorrhaged during a circumcision. He had a heart defect and was on blood thinners. They had already gone through multiple surgeries, months in the NICU. He made it through, but the possibility that they would have fought for his life all of those months only to lose him to something so stupid and avoidable is very chilling and heartbreaking to me.
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March 10th, 2013, 06:31 AM
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So sad!!!
I will be keeping any boys I have intact for sure. I read a stat that only 10% of boys are circumsized in Canada these days.
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March 10th, 2013, 06:38 AM
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There are approximately 117 deaths attributed to circumcision in the US each year. In 2009, there were 2,226 infant deaths attributed to SIDS. I can't stand when any side of any issue spouts inaccurate data.
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March 10th, 2013, 06:42 AM
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There are approximately 117 deaths attributed to circumcision in the US each year. In 2009, there were 2,226 infant deaths attributed to SIDS. I can't stand when any side of any issue spouts inaccurate data.
Regardless of stats, though, that is still 117 dealths that were 1000000% preventable. SIDS, on the other hand, is not preventable as long as you follow reccomendations (back to sleep, no blankets, etc).
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March 10th, 2013, 07:05 AM
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Regardless of stats, though, that is still 117 dealths that were 1000000% preventable. SIDS, on the other hand, is not preventable as long as you follow reccomendations (back to sleep, no blankets, etc).
True. And people who are arguing against circ'ing need only focus on that stat. It is a scary enough stat all by itself.
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March 10th, 2013, 09:10 AM
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There are approximately 117 deaths attributed to circumcision in the US each year. In 2009, there were 2,226 infant deaths attributed to SIDS. I can't stand when any side of any issue spouts inaccurate data.
Although there are widely different statistics about this depending on which source you look at, and most researchers agree that the total number of deaths due to circumcision is grossly underreported. A child may die from circumcision-related complications (for example, from heart failure following heart stress) several weeks after leaving the hospital, in which case neither his parents nor the doctor are likely to attribute the death to circumcision. In fact, they might even list the cause of death on the death certificate as "SIDS." Moreover, when infants do die from circumcision, physicians have a powerful incentive to downplay this (i.e. by listing the cause of death as "infection" rather than specifically circumcision), especially given that the AAP has indicated that routine infant circumcision is not necessary.

Neither of my boys is circ'ed. Neither is my husband. I am so glad that he and I are on the same page about this is. These kinds of stories are heartbreaking.
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March 10th, 2013, 01:08 PM
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That's so sad
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March 10th, 2013, 04:41 PM
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That's very sad

Dominic is in tact and I have never regretted that decision. Though, I have no issues with parents who chose to have it done either. To each their own. But 117 preventable deaths is tragic, I had no idea it was even that high when I made the decision not to do it.
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March 10th, 2013, 04:54 PM
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I didn't circ Silas because 1) It costs money here 2) I didn't want to take care of it and 3) If it isn't broke don't fix it.

How did he die?
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March 11th, 2013, 06:08 AM
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I didn't circ Silas because 1) It costs money here 2) I didn't want to take care of it and 3) If it isn't broke don't fix it.

How did he die?
He bled out.
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Yeah, it's so sad! From my understanding a lot of circ deaths are not labeled circ deaths but whatever they died of that was a result of the circ itself (bleeding out, organ failure ect). So yeah, there are probably way more deaths a year from it, it's definitely not as "routine and safe" as it's promoted to be. Poor baby and the family, I mean, I have the most horrible guilt for circing my first 3 boys so I can't even, don't even, want to think about what that family is going to feel in the future.
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March 11th, 2013, 08:35 AM
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He bled out.
Because he was a hemophiliac.
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March 12th, 2013, 03:27 PM
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I had my son done less than three months ago, and it WAS so routine and "easy". He never showed any signs of being in pain afterwards, and I couldn't believe how fast it healed! It is so "out there" for me to think of a baby dying from that!!! (Even though I know it happens.) I seriously seem to bleed more from a hang nail than I ever saw in Tucker's diaper - and I am not exaggerating

I don't regret our decision at all, but I respect people who decide against it as well
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I had my son done less than three months ago, and it WAS so routine and "easy". He never showed any signs of being in pain afterwards, and I couldn't believe how fast it healed! It is so "out there" for me to think of a baby dying from that!!! (Even though I know it happens.) I seriously seem to bleed more from a hang nail than I ever saw in Tucker's diaper - and I am not exaggerating

I don't regret our decision at all, but I respect people who decide against it as well
Tricia, he bled out because he had a clotting disorder that no one knew about. He could have easily died from a lip tie fix or some other minor surgery (not suggesting that circ is a minor surgery, just saying). He was a hemophiliac.
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March 12th, 2013, 07:55 PM
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I feel so sorry for this family. Can you imagine doing something that you thought was routine and no big deal and having your child die? I don't even want to think about it.
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March 13th, 2013, 10:42 PM
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:-( that's heartbreaking. Soooo happy Carter is uncut. We believe in body integrity for both sexes.
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Hmm haven't heard of that site.

Sad story :-(
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