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February 8th, 2013, 03:59 PM
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Tincture of Cramp Bark. It really puts a dent in the cramping, although after Lucy I ended up using a combination of cramp bark, tylenol, some deep breathing, and lots of cursing.

Probably find it at any health food store. You can take it under your tongue followed by water (it is *nasty* bitter) or put drops in a couple ounces of water and shoot it.
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February 8th, 2013, 06:16 PM
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I have heard about that one for period cramps. Do you know if it gets in the breast milk? I hesitate on pretty much all herbs and meds for BFing, esp with a tiny newborn. Although ibuprofen and naproxen/Aleve are pretty safe for BFing, and my extra strength Aleve was totally sufficient pain relief for me last time, I am a bit worried about the pains being worse this time, I hear they are worse with each baby I would not bother with Tylenol, it doesn't touch my worst period cramps so I know it wouldn't help much, but ibuprofen always helped my cramps a lot and Aleve is very similar, they are both NSAIDs and work in the same basic way.
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February 8th, 2013, 08:50 PM
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I have had it recommended by two midwives, they both considered it safe for breastfeeding.
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Thanks for the tip.
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February 9th, 2013, 06:55 AM
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Interesting. I may look into that. I do remember the after pains being a lot stronger after Abri than they were after Lily. Not really looking forward to it after a third
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So I was curious about more info on crampbark during breastfeeding. Here is what I found, for those interested.

First off, it looks very likely to be effective as a pain relief for afterpains especially in the higher doses. It has been shown to relax smooth muscle. So it's definitely an active compound and not like "take chamomile tea to relax" if you know what I mean.

It has been traditionally used for afterpains and there are no reports of major problems for the babies. However (this concerned me a bit) it has also been taken by breastfeeding mothers to help make their colicky babies less colicky, because it transfers through the breastmilk. Again this is "traditional knowledge", not studies, but still gave me pause. To some that may be a selling point, but to me I just think of the hundreds of years babies had mercury pastes rubbed on their gums to help their teething- highly effective but causes brain damage too.

The standard warnings for all herbal things that have never been safety tested, apply for crampbark. It has just never been scientifically studied. Very unfortunate since it seems to have some very effective properties and it would be great to have more solid evidence on dosing, etc.

So in the end, I am not comfortable taking it myself, I will stick with the western meds that have been thoroughly studied and have standard doses. I am cautious at this point in my life about herbals with a lack of hard data behind them. But I do not think it is a crazy thing to take and certainly it seems it could be effective. I would probably try it if I were not going to breastfeed.

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^Well I'm screwed then! I can't take ibuprofen because I had an allergic reaction to it when I was in junior high. I swear I've had it since then, but the hospital won't give it to me. And Tylenol is a joke for postpartum pain. I was hoping to take this bark stuff when I read the original post, but I'm going to be EBF so now I'm not so sure.

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February 9th, 2013, 11:08 AM
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You have to do what you decide is best, of course. The way I figure it, the amount of colostrum the baby receives in the first days is very small, and I haven't used it more than a day or two, so I'm done with it a couple days before my milk comes in. I've used it after birth for three EBF'ed babies with absolutely no effects. That has just been my personal experience.
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^Well I'm screwed then! I can't take ibuprofen because I had an allergic reaction to it when I was in junior high. I swear I've had it since then, but the hospital won't give it to me. And Tylenol is a joke for postpartum pain. I was hoping to take this bark stuff when I read the original post, but I'm going to be EBF so now I'm not so sure.

Balls.
Ack, that's tricky!!! A big part of my personal decision is knowing that Aleve or ibuprofen will work well for me, so I have a viable alternative. If I didn't have that option I might consider it more.

There are always risks and tradeoffs that are very personal. If your afterpains are real bad you might want to consider it... pain is not healthy either!!! And maybe just be conservative with the dose.

When there is a lack of real evidence, these risk/benefit analyses get soooo hard. I would bet most midwives would happily recommend crampbark without a second thought because of its tradition of use, but that most doctors would not because of the reasons I stated previously. There is really no one clear answer.
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February 9th, 2013, 09:05 PM
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They say the pains are more intense with subsequent births, but I still only took Tylenol after ds3 & it wasn't that bad. I hope the same is true for baby #4. I usually never take medicine for anything (like headaches & minor pains) so I've always wondered if its more effective for me. Like caffeine. I never drink it so if I do have a cup I'm wired for hours whereas dh drinks it everyday so he can drink it and go to bed afterwards.
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After pains were so bad after Everett, I was screaming a cuss word every time he nursed after a few minues it settled but still It sucked!
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