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November 2nd, 2012, 10:15 AM
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NOT A DEBATE! do you want to BF or FF this baby? what did you do with your other children?

i BF jacob until he self-weaned at 26 months. i want to do the same with baby #2. i am NOT looking forward to pumping (i work FT), but i am going to splurge on a medela freestyle this time.
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November 2nd, 2012, 10:23 AM
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BF first until 2 years old.

BF second until she was 16 months.

Will BF this one assuming all goes well.

With my first, BFing was SO hard at first. I almost stopped a gazillion times. It was agonizing. She had problems with it and I had problems with it. I can totally understand why some women choose not to do it. I would have stopped, too, if it hadn't been from pressure from friends/family.
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November 2nd, 2012, 10:31 AM
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#1 was FF, she never would latch.
#2 was Bf'ed until 16 months.
#3 was bf'ed until 13 or 14 months.
#4 is still bf'ing and he's 13 months old. Not sure when he will wean.

I plan on bf'ing this baby.
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November 2nd, 2012, 10:38 AM
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Nathaniel was FF for various reasons, mostly because I didn't have much support. I tried for a few months then gave up. Norah was BF (and still nurses twice a day). I was much more determined this time and prepared, though we still had problems in the beginning. If all goes well, this one will be BF too
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November 2nd, 2012, 11:25 AM
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I BF'd my son until his 2nd birthday (coincidence -- he was starting to self wean but was sick on his birthday and BF'd one last time). I plan to BF again.
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November 2nd, 2012, 02:11 PM
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I'm not planning on anything. What happens happens.

Obviously the 'goal' is the breastfeed, but I am leaving it completely blank and if for whatever reason I cannot, then that's just the way it is.
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November 2nd, 2012, 02:16 PM
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I would love to breast feed. I'll give it all I've got but won't lose sleep if I have to formula feed
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November 2nd, 2012, 02:33 PM
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I BF'd DD for a month. We had major issues and I just gave up.

I plan to try BFing again this time. I know more this time and I will try harder to keep going and get help if we're having issues. BUT I was very happy FFing DD, so if I have to go that route again, I will be okay with it.
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November 2nd, 2012, 03:54 PM
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I breast fed my first for 18 months and my second for 2 1/2 years. I will breast feed again. I work and am not looking forward to pumping.... ugh.

I only pump for the first year.
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November 2nd, 2012, 04:09 PM
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oh dear, prepare for a novel...

Tegan was a very big surprise pregnancy and came only a year after I had a breast reduction. I really wanted to BF though so I read a lot material on BF-ing post surgery. One of the problems is with being so quick after surgery is that there still wasnt a lot of feeling in some parts of my breasts and it can actually take up to 5 years for the ducts to re-canalize (open up again).

That being said we started with BF-ing in the hospital and it was rough. It took almost 5 days for my milk to come in and by day 3 T was screaming. She lost a lb and was closing in on 5lbs. My nipples were cracked and bleeding from putting her too them so often. We decided to supplement with an Medela SNS (bag of formula fed through a tube taped close to the nipple). This worked well and we used this system for the first 2 weeks.

I was on all sorts of herbs, the highest dose of domperidone and ate every random thing people said helped milk production I was recommended a special type of bottle by others who were post surgery called a Medela Haberman Feeder. They are made for babies with cleft palate and have a restricted flow so the babies have to suck really hard. They are supposed to be good for those who are bottle and breast feeding as often breastfeeding is harder than getting milk from a bottle so babies start to reject the breast after a while.

So I would feed her first by breast and then top her up by bottle afterwards. I tried to always pump after a feeding as well to stimulate higher milk production. I was able to meet about 50% of her needs this way. I always held out hope that I could get to 100% but that was not to be. Every single breastfeeding session was painful. So painful. When she would breastfeed she would cut off blood flow to my nipples and they would turn bright white along with part of the areola. Then when she would stop the blood would return and the pain was so strong. I met with la leche people at the breastfeeding clinics and they said our latch wasnt the problem. I went to the dr who said he could prescribe me a medication to try and open the blood vessels but a side effect is fainting and I already have a history of that so he was really reluctant to do so.

At 5.5 months she started to reject the breast. I suspect after putting the bottle nipples in the dishwasher (we didnt realize this was a no-no) that they loosened up. She found it way easier to feed from the bottle and would scream when I tried to breastfeed. After 2 weeks of this she was weaned completely from any breast milk. My first goal was a year of BF-ing and my revised goal was 6 months. I figure we made it close enough I couldnt believe the sense of relief once we made the decision to stop. BF-ing and trying to BF had consumed so much of my time for those first 5 months. I felt like I spent every waking hour worrying about how much she was getting and how I could do it better. It was so painful when she fed I resented her wanting to eat and I didnt enjoy these bonding moments.

That being said I'm so glad I tried as hard as I did and got as much breast milk into her as possible. This go around though I am going to do things differently. I am hoping that time is on my side and that I will have healed (it has been 5+ years now) and that things might be a bit easier. But if its not I am not going to be so hard on myself. I will give it my all but I will not beat myself up. If it gets to the point where I'm not enjoying my baby thats it I will call it.

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November 2nd, 2012, 04:34 PM
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#1 until around 1 yr old
#2 until about 10 months

I hope to BF this one for longer because I probably won't be working full time like I was before and having to pump
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November 2nd, 2012, 05:08 PM
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my first i bf for 2 weeks then my milk dried up.

my second i bf for a week then my milk dried up.

my third I didnt even try to bf because at 20 wks of pregnancy, my milk ducts clogged and i got a reoccuring abcess that ended up having to be removed via surgery at 36 wks.

ironic huh. no milk then enough for a clog before birth... my luck
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November 2nd, 2012, 06:08 PM
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oh dear, prepare for a novel...

Tegan was a very big surprise pregnancy and came only a year after I had a breast reduction. I really wanted to BF though so I read a lot material on BF-ing post surgery. One of the problems is with being so quick after surgery is that there still wasnt a lot of feeling in some parts of my breasts and it can actually take up to 5 years for the ducts to re-canalize (open up again).

That being said we started with BF-ing in the hospital and it was rough. It took almost 5 days for my milk to come in and by day 3 T was screaming. She lost a lb and was closing in on 5lbs. My nipples were cracked and bleeding from putting her too them so often. We decided to supplement with an Medela SNS (bag of formula fed through a tube taped close to the nipple). This worked well and we used this system for the first 2 weeks.

I was on all sorts of herbs, the highest dose of domperidone and ate every random thing people said helped milk production I was recommended a special type of bottle by others who were post surgery called a Medela Haberman Feeder. They are made for babies with cleft palate and have a restricted flow so the babies have to suck really hard. They are supposed to be good for those who are bottle and breast feeding as often breastfeeding is harder than getting milk from a bottle so babies start to reject the breast after a while.

So I would feed her first by breast and then top her up by bottle afterwards. I tried to always pump after a feeding as well to stimulate higher milk production. I was able to meet about 50% of her needs this way. I always held out hope that I could get to 100% but that was not to be. Every single breastfeeding session was painful. So painful. When she would breastfeed she would cut off blood flow to my nipples and they would turn bright white along with part of the areola. Then when she would stop the blood would return and the pain was so strong. I met with la leche people at the breastfeeding clinics and they said our latch wasnt the problem. I went to the dr who said he could prescribe me a medication to try and open the blood vessels but a side effect is fainting and I already have a history of that so he was really reluctant to do so.

At 5.5 months she started to reject the breast. I suspect after putting the bottle nipples in the dishwasher (we didnt realize this was a no-no) that they loosened up. She found it way easier to feed from the bottle and would scream when I tried to breastfeed. After 2 weeks of this she was weaned completely from any breast milk. My first goal was a year of BF-ing and my revised goal was 6 months. I figure we made it close enough I couldnt believe the sense of relief once we made the decision to stop. BF-ing and trying to BF had consumed so much of my time for those first 5 months. I felt like I spent every waking hour worrying about how much she was getting and how I could do it better. It was so painful when she fed I resented her wanting to eat and I didnt enjoy these bonding moments.

That being said I'm so glad I tried as hard as I did and got as much breast milk into her as possible. This go around though I am going to do things differently. I am hoping that time is on my side and that I will have healed (it has been 5+ years now) and that things might be a bit easier. But if its not I am not going to be so hard on myself. I will give it my all but I will not beat myself up. If it gets to the point where I'm not enjoying my baby thats it I will call it.

anyone still reading...lol

I had a friend who was missing a lot of her mammary tissue (she just wasn't born with it) and couldn't make enough milk to feed her daughter 100% breastmilk. You mamas who stick with it despite the difficulties are awesome! I agree that when it becomes hard on both mama and baby, then you should do what is best for your family

Like I said before, I FF my oldest because BFing just didn't work for us. I often thought that if I had the chance to go back, I would change things but I really think that things happened the way they did for a reason. While I do wish I had been able to bond with him with breastfeeding like I do with Norah (and it probably would have helped the bonding process for me), I'm just as bonded with him as I am with her.

It isn't just about what works for a family, but what works from baby to baby.
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November 2nd, 2012, 07:35 PM
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Breastfeeding IS hard. Nobody really tells you that. It wasn't natural for me with my first especially. She just wouldn't latch AT ALL. I stressed out, I was miserable. My 2nd I was more determined and he latched right on, didn't have one issue (except thrush battles). #3 latched on as well, even after being in the NICU a week. No issues with him either. I did think we would be done around 5 months when I was having gallbladder problems and in the hospital 5 days. I survived and was still able to breastfeed. That was amazing to me.

#4 though has been misery. I had cut nipples ALL the time, blocked ducts, ALL the time, it's not been fun, but I've stuck with it because he's allergic to milk and I didn't want to go through the testing out different formulas.

KUDOS to the pumping mommas. I HATE pumping and never could keep up doing it.
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November 2nd, 2012, 07:43 PM
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okay...so i was 18 when i got pregnant with my first so i was young....

so i wanted to BF but holy cripes raianna literally wanted to nurse every half hour to an hour....it was exhausting and painful...and stressful...i lasted 6 weeks LOL then i started to supplement with formula...and about a month after that i just went full on formula...i do not regret that at ALL...my sanity was at stake LOL

elyse i BF until she was 4 months old...at that time i got a severe cold and i was told it was okay to take sudafed...WRONG...it dried up my milk supply in a week! so yeah that sucked....so started on the formula at that time

helena i BF until 8 months...i was under reallly bad stress at the time and lost over 20lb in 3 weeks time...so yeah buh bye milk supply...i couldn't eat everything i ate i threw right back up...it was disappointing....but circumstances being..it couldn't be helped..she was not on formula long though before she was on milk
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November 2nd, 2012, 07:46 PM
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It may be waaaaaaayyy too early to post this, but here's what helped me so much with latching troubles. I did "laid back breastfeeding" as described in the La Leche League book. I sat reclined on pillows, wearing no top, and putting my son on my belly. He wiggled around until he latched himself. It wasn't the "perfect" latch, but it was sometimes such a relief to do that after all the breast-squashing and head-guiding I was taught to do by lactation specialists, which didn't always work.

I agree with PP, kudos to pumping mamas!
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November 2nd, 2012, 07:57 PM
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DS1 - I pumped for the first month (he was a 26 weeker), I ended up drying up, and FF after the BM was gone.

DS2 - EBF till 18 months

DS3 - EBF till 18 months

This one I will EBF till he/she weans themselves.
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November 2nd, 2012, 08:14 PM
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I will breastfeed. I will have to pump when I go back to work, and it has never worked well for me. I never really needed to before, as I was a SAHM for 5 years. Now that I do, I will be meeting with a lactation consultant for tips to help me with any pumping issues.
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November 2nd, 2012, 08:33 PM
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It may be waaaaaaayyy too early to post this, but here's what helped me so much with latching troubles. I did "laid back breastfeeding" as described in the La Leche League book. I sat reclined on pillows, wearing no top, and putting my son on my belly. He wiggled around until he latched himself. It wasn't the "perfect" latch, but it was sometimes such a relief to do that after all the breast-squashing and head-guiding I was taught to do by lactation specialists, which didn't always work.

I agree with PP, kudos to pumping mamas!
Oh man, I'm the worst BFer ever by LLL standards lol. Norah had a pretty good "standard" latch for the first few weeks but she eventually got into the groove of having her own latch. It isn't technically correct but it is the most comfortable for us.

My biggest problem with beginning breastfeeding was that both my babies had jaundice. I don't know if it is a hereditary thing (since they both had it) or if it was my lifestyle or what, but they seriously would not wake up to eat. We'd literally put cold, wet rags on their backs to keep them awake long enough to nurse. That killed any chance to BF Nathaniel but I kept it up with Norah long enough for her to get rid of her jaundice and continue nursing.

BF is hard as hell in the beginning but it is much easier to carry around your boobs than carrying around the equipment for FF. Especially if you perpetually forgot water like I did
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November 2nd, 2012, 10:45 PM
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I FFed my twins. I intended to BF but I had a really complicated emergency c-section delivery where I crashed on the table, and then developed post-op sepsis and needed multiple transfusions, blah blah blah. So yeah, my milk never came in. I think my body when into protective mode and decided to prioritize taking care of my healing instead of making milk for my babies. I nursed several times at the hospital but by the time we were home from the hospital they were exclusively bottle fed with formula.

With my son I was adamant about BFing since I sorta mourned losing that opportunity with the twins. But I will tell you, it was NOT easy at first. Bad latch, funky milk supply, mastitis, the works. But we persevered and last almost 13 months. Once the first 8 weeks passed and we got into our routine it was actually waaaaay easier then FFing, in my opinion.

I'll be BFing this baby, too, provided all works out the way I want .
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