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September 2nd, 2013, 01:02 AM
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I've only pumped a few times and your nipple does crazy things! Its a very stretchy part of your body! With a baby the nipple comes out looking the same. A baby actually sucks on the areola around the nipple and its much more efficient then a pump. It takes me 5-10 min to feed a baby vs. 30 min to pump. I was using a one side at a time model. Pumping was bizarre for me and felt unnatural and forced. It was cool to see milk spurting out, but I think it was the novelty. Your milk is the best food for Eve any way she gets it. I'd attend a breastfeeding class. They are usually a one time seminar. Take Nate with you! Lots of dads will be there. They will teach you to successfully pump as well as bf if you want to try it. They will give you lots of information on how to keep engorgement, mastitis and other conditions away. I referred to my packet many times after my baby was born.
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September 2nd, 2013, 01:48 AM
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I used a Medela PISA, but be forewarned that not everyone's breasts can accommodate pumping. Nursing is a much more efficient way to remove milk (if your LO doesn't have difficulties with latch, tongue tie, etc). I never pumped more than 6 oz in a day, and that was including pumping through missed feedings. If that's the case for you, you want a hospital grade pump. If all you can get is a used electric, definitely get a double and a pumping bra. Don't be too grossed out- the motor is the used parts, and you get new pieces that touch your breasts or milk.

I think it's great that you want her to have the benefit of your breastmilk- however much it is, however she gets it, it all helps! And if you end up BFing, Nate will get plenty of bonding time with changing, burping, and can still feed whatever you pump.
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September 2nd, 2013, 06:23 AM
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Definitely get a double electric! I have exclusively breastfed both of my other kids-my first for 18 months, my 2nd for 14 months. I pumped occasionally with both of them incase I needed to go some where and so others could feed them every now and then. I have a Medela FreeStyle. I also say you should definitely give breastfeeding a try!! GOOD FOR YOU for looking out for your baby and wanting her to get the good stuff!!! It's so hard for us as mothers to sacrifice our bodies completely for another human being, and the funny thing is that we're supposed to completely commit to doing it all before we even meet or see that baby!! BUT-I can tell you, once you hold and snuggle and smell that baby-that new life that came from you, it won't be weird!! The sweetest thing in the world is holding a brand new baby up to your bare chest, skin to skin, and just watch how they immediately open their mouth and start rooting around looking for booby!! haha! It really is so precious! It's just the way nature intended it. Good luck with whatever you do!! It sounds like you have her best interest at heart, and you'll be a great mom!!
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September 2nd, 2013, 07:12 AM
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Being a FTM and never being around breastfeeding before, the thought of doing it is weird to me too, even though I know it's completely natural and what boobs are meant for. I'm still a bit afraid of it. I'm going to give it a lot of effort though and hope it works out because I really want it to. I am getting a pump as well, in case there are latching issues and for the occasional bottle for going out...because I don't know if I'll ever feel comfortable BF'ing in public.
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September 2nd, 2013, 09:18 AM
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first of all, thanks for the advice!

second, i think i'm going to consider breastfeeding more.. pumping doesn't sound to be worth the effort:/ i might try it in the hospital and go from there.. could i supplement my milk with formula so others could feed her if i'm not home? if so when should i introduce the bottle?
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September 2nd, 2013, 09:28 AM
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I would ask more questions about the WIC pump. I am guessing if it used then it is a hospital grade pump. Those are the BEST! Super effective. The hospital grade ones are designed so milk doesn't go into the actual machine. So, no cross contamination. You will get all new parts. The actual motor is the only used part.

If that is not what it is then I would recommend the Medela Pump in Style.
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September 2nd, 2013, 09:47 AM
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first of all, thanks for the advice!

second, i think i'm going to consider breastfeeding more.. pumping doesn't sound to be worth the effort:/ i might try it in the hospital and go from there.. could i supplement my milk with formula so others could feed her if i'm not home? if so when should i introduce the bottle?
I'm planning to breastfeed but am also open to forumla feeding/supplementation. I'm trying not to get too hung up on exclusive breastfeeding. I would like to, but I also know that I need to be flexible after seeing how baby responds! I'm hoping to breastfeed/pump/bottle feed breastmilk, but am definitely not opposed to formula if that's what it comes to
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September 2nd, 2013, 12:53 PM
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You've gotten a lot of great advice! I think your last response sounds great....there are a few options/way to feed a baby and until baby is here you won't really know what works best for the both of you so you may just want to keep your opinions open and see how it goes once she arrives.

Introducing the bottle will probably generate a lot of difference responses too. With Teegan i believe i waited maybe 2 weeks at most (and it might of been sooner than that...) and he was just fine with BF or bottle. Some people believe in waiting to avoid nipple confusion and some believe waiting causes nipple confusion (it's so fun being a parent!!!! ). I didn't wait that long because i was exhausted and i need DH's help at night feeding him. He was up every 2 hours and fed for an hour. @_@ But your baby may not be like that!

I'm sure that either WIC or MA would give you a free pump though so you might as well take advantage of that to see how it goes!
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September 2nd, 2013, 01:39 PM
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I think trying it is a great choice. It was weird putting my son to my boob the first time but after that it felt normal. Your hormones switch at birth and I no longer look at my boobs as sexual but more as a feeding device.

Also, I will say, everyone's experiences are different. My son was a horrible latcher and nursing took way longer than pumping for us. I did both until I went back to work. Once I did that, he refused latching all together because he preferred the bottle. I think it's because he could drink it faster, he was a fatty then lol.
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September 2nd, 2013, 01:42 PM
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Ducks-Yes, you can supplement with formula. It all depends on the baby. Some don't like formula after having breastmilk. Also, when you supplement, you run the risk of drying up quickly because breastfeeding is a supply/demand thing.

When she comes, try it all out. You will find a balance that works for you!
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September 2nd, 2013, 03:51 PM
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I actually liked pumping because it gave me an excuse to make DH watch the kids while I got to sit down at the computer for a few minutes. But I also liked breastfeeding for the same reason!

When I was pregnant with my first, I was terrified of breastfeeding. Terrified. I knew I was going to do it, because it's what everyone in my family has always done (my mom nursed me until I was 2 1/2), and because I know it's best for baby. But my nipples have always been super-sensitive, and I was freaked out about it. I was more scared of breastfeeding than I was of the actual labor.

But then, after I tried breastfeeding for the first time, my immediate reaction was "Oh, so that's what they're for!" TMI....breastfeeding just felt so much more natural and comfortable to me than using them for anything sex-related had ever felt. It's not even remotely sexual. It's as natural and comfortable (for me) as hugging and snuggling your baby, or giving them kisses.

I know that's not everyone's experience, but I just wanted to share. Your initial fears sometimes go away after you actually get to meet your baby. There's a bond that's indescribable, and a lot of your old hang-ups will disappear in the face of that.
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September 2nd, 2013, 05:46 PM
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Ok - this might be a stupid question....but I thought you BF AND pumped? I thought everyone did. Maybe not in the beginning but after a couple months? Especially once you go back to work, don't you have to pump? Or can you hold off until the end of the day?

Also - I think I am going to rent a pump before actually buying one. I have had no change in my breasts thus far and I am afraid my milk wont come in or something. So rather spend the money before hand (my insurance only covers manual), I am going to rent it for a month or two to see how it goes.
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September 2nd, 2013, 06:09 PM
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i personally only work 4 or 5 hours at a time, so i figured i could handle that without feeding (correct me if my times are wrong?). i had planned to pump before and after work. if i breastfeed/ bottle feed, i'll just feed her instead of pumping.

this is kinda tmi i guess? but my nipples are also sensitive and i didn't really think about how a vacuum would affect them .-.
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September 2nd, 2013, 07:01 PM
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My daughter needed to eat every 2 hours or so. I think 4-5 hours is too long for a small baby to go without eating.
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September 2nd, 2013, 07:04 PM
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i think when to introduce the bottle depends on the kid.

with my oldest, he was bottle fed in the hospital and, when we got home, i tried to breastfeed once. he rejected me and i was so depressed. i had no one to turn to for advice and there wasn't this big push towards breast milk 17 years ago. so i never tried again.

with my younger son, he was bottle fed the three days we were in the hospital. when we came home, i tried breastfeeding and had no problems. i was able to go between the two thankfully bc i was embarrassed to breastfeed around people. those first three months, i breastfed exclusively at night bc i was too tired to get up and make bottles. i also started slowly mixing breast milk w/ carnation good start until finally it was all formula by the time 3 or 4 months came and I was back at school. thankfully, all of this worked out bc i had to figure it out by myself. again, i didn't know who to ask and no one in my family breastfed. all i know is that for those 3 months, my son was never sick. as soon as i stopped w/ the breast milk, he had an ear infection. so i'll be doing whatever i can for these kiddos b/c i can't handle sick babies.
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September 2nd, 2013, 07:17 PM
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if we did breast milk and formula bottles, Nate or my mom would be able to feed her when i'm at work and Nate could be helpful during the night. i would breastfeed when i'm home, so she'd be eating mostly that. i don't want to breastfeed her too long though that's why i want her on the bottle early; so she knows it when i'm ready to stop breastfeeding. they say a baby's immune system is completely independent around a year old, so i figure if i breastfeed, that's when i stop. i'm going to run that by a doctor before i commit to that timeline.
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September 2nd, 2013, 09:36 PM
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Ok, with the sensitive nipple question, it takes a minute or two to adjust and then you won't feel much as long as you have a good latch.

One thing you need to keep in mind too is you can't just decide pump here, feed here, formula here, sleep all night here etc.. You have to keep a schedule and keep a rotation on your breasts. Otherwise your going to fight keeping your supply up. The cue for your body of how much milk it should make is based on a supply and demand schedule. If your skipping around like crazy your bodies not going to know what to do and will just make less because it's not getting used enough. (Plus you risk getting clogged ducts or mastitus)

Another thing is being aware of how breastmilk is in your breast. The first stuff that you pump out is the foremilk, it's more sugar and water and thin. The hind milk is the good stuff, it has the fat (cream) and is thick. So it's important to make your pumping all of your milk out so you get the good hind milk. It's also important to feed baby on one side until it's completely drained. Otherwise they aren't getting the calories.


Oh and please be aware I wasn't trying to deter you from pumping. I just wanted to make sure you understood it's more work and also know all the discomforts that come with it.
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September 2nd, 2013, 09:52 PM
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i didn't get that vibe from your post- i figured you were trying to make sure i knew what i was getting in to i'm leaning more towards breastfeeding (i broke my own rule and consulted google and got in touch with the aunt who breastfed exclusively) but i'll have to put more thought and planning into it.. i didn't realize it took so much work D:

i kept the pump on my registry, and it's the cheapest medula one the site offered (buybuybaby, but i forget which pump it was exactly). if no one buys it, i'll look into the wic options available. i really don't want to be the only one who can feed her, but don't want to give her straight formula unless there's no other options. the more i think about it, i'm willing to try so many other things, why not just give this a shot? the worst that could happen is that she has a latch issue or i don't produce enough, right?
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September 2nd, 2013, 11:26 PM
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i didn't get that vibe from your post- i figured you were trying to make sure i knew what i was getting in to i'm leaning more towards breastfeeding (i broke my own rule and consulted google and got in touch with the aunt who breastfed exclusively) but i'll have to put more thought and planning into it.. i didn't realize it took so much work D:

i kept the pump on my registry, and it's the cheapest medula one the site offered (buybuybaby, but i forget which pump it was exactly). if no one buys it, i'll look into the wic options available. i really don't want to be the only one who can feed her, but don't want to give her straight formula unless there's no other options. the more i think about it, i'm willing to try so many other things, why not just give this a shot? the worst that could happen is that she has a latch issue or i don't produce enough, right?
Just make sure you get the double electric. Thats what I have and it works great. You can also keep an eye on craigslist and facebook classifieds for ones. You can just buy new hoses and shields so that all that is "used" is the motor.
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September 3rd, 2013, 01:12 AM
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Second on the double being important, as the dual pumping often increases output for people who struggle to supply.

Breastfeeding is a lot of work. Pumping is a LOT of work, and was the most emotionally draining experience of my life. Formula feeding can be a lot of work. I have a friend who adopted, and it took several months of tearful specialist visits, changes of bottles/formula/strategies, and thousands of dollars to keep her baby from being "failure to thrive" Maybe it would have also been difficult if he nursed.... who knows, but formula feeding or pumping may not very well save you any convenience.

I FF out of necessity until accepting a friend's milk and eventually creating enough supply for my DD after a few months. I was so, so, so lucky that she took the first formula we tried, at room temp, and with the bottles we had on hand. It took the least work of all the methods we used, for sure, just not the way I wanted to go. Every baby is a different story, and you'll find pumpers and formula feeders who'll say "easy" and who'll say "insanely hard". We all just have to muddle through and find our own best way.

Obviously BFing is important to me, so I say this with my own bias, but I'd try BFing first. You'd be surprised at how natural it is when the most precious thing in your life is starving and scared and sad. I've been in cases where I've had to fight the overwhelming urge to nurse someone ELSE'S baby, because it just feels so normal when someone is crying. You get the chance to do that only very early on, so try it first, is my suggestion. And if it doesn't work, try a little harder, and if it still doesn't work, start to consider your options!

You already love your baby so much. Your baby will love you no matter how you feed it. Feeding your baby with love while maintaining your sanity is the most important thing, whatever method you choose!!

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