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Thank you! Frankie's been staying with his grandparents this week while we're adjusting with the new baby. When he met him at the hospital, he did ok. He just kept pointing at Ronin's eyre, nose and mouth and asking " what's that?" The vbac went really well, Ronin was " sunny side up", so it was a long labor and back labor. I intended to go without meds but after my water broke I couldn't take the pain anymore, so I got the epi. I tore so I'm a little sore but nothing like the c section. It's been a pretty easy recovery so far, only needed ibuprofen for pain. At 4 days pp I feel almost back to normal. I'm so happy I decided to try, it was amazing getting to push and be able to pull him up on to my belly and see him as soon as he was born.