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January 12th, 2010, 08:09 AM
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This may be a stupid question. In the US...when filing taxes....there is a tax credit when you have a baby. Now, Joey was born at full term....we are still paying off medical bills from the pregnancy and birth and if we didn't have help from our parents we'd still be paying off his casket, cemetary plot and we are still saving for a stone because its not like there was life insurance to help defray the costs as there may be when an older child or adult dies. (I know you all know this and have experienced this).

Do you just ignore the birth when you file your taxes? I feel like because of the incredible expenses plus emotional hardship stillbirth parents are "entitled" to the credit....but would it be fraud to claim a stillbirth as adding a child to the family?
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January 12th, 2010, 08:42 AM
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I do believe they don't count it, but you should definitely see if there's something else you can claim it under. The child tax credit is for the expenses of living children. I agree with you though, we should get something, and maybe a professional would know if there is something you could get.

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January 12th, 2010, 08:42 AM
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I'm guessing the tax credit would only apply to a living child but I think it's definitely something to look into. Like you said, you have all these expenses.
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January 12th, 2010, 08:44 AM
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I would've loved to have claimed Robert on ours, but my understanding is that to ba able to claim a child, they must have a social security number, and those are only issued to living babies. I am not positive on this though. Maybe someone else will know more.
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January 12th, 2010, 08:47 AM
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I would've loved to have claimed Robert on ours, but my understanding is that to ba able to claim a child, they must have a social security number, and those are only issued to living babies. I am not positive on this though. Maybe someone else will know more.
That's exactly it. Hopefully there something.
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January 12th, 2010, 08:56 AM
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So, I looked into it a little bit and it looks like there may be a few states that allow you to claim a stillborn child. You have to have a Certificate of Birth Resulting in Stillbirth. I'll keep looking into more and let you know what I find out.
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January 12th, 2010, 08:57 AM
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I am going to go with the other women and say it is worth asking someone who knows the laws, but I think it is probably not possible to claim a stillborn baby.
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January 12th, 2010, 09:38 AM
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You could probably call someone that does taxes like H&R block they would probably know....I know when we do our taxes they always ask if we've had a baby in the last year...I don't think that you can claim a stillborn baby though, which I think is unfair....The parents still had a baby, and that baby did exist ...If your baby took just one breath you could claim them, but because our baby's didn't, they can't...I think it's awful.
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January 12th, 2010, 09:43 AM
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We asked last year and were told we could not. Unless the baby is born alive and a certificate of live birth and a social are issued you can not claim them.

Now, there is a foundation called the Unforgettables that donates money to families to help cover burial/cremation expenses. They helped us, but I'm not sure if they are a local company or not.
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January 12th, 2010, 10:28 AM
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There are credits for medical costs too, I know. I'm not sure about all the stuff you have to have for it, but if you have the receipts and such from paying any medical bills you can take those off taxes once they exceed a certain amount.

They won't let you claim a stillborn child, however, without a social and birth certificate.

Call a CPA and see what can be done!
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January 12th, 2010, 10:40 AM
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I am in tax, so I know a little bit.

Basically, you may be entitled to claim a child tax credit for a qualifying child if you claimed an exemption for this child. Here is from the IRS publication 17 :
" Stillborn child. You cannot claim an exemption for a stillborn child ".
Therefore, you can't claim a child tax credit. The state laws could be different though.
Funeral costs are not deductible. The portion of total medical costs in excess of 7.5 % of your Total Gross Income is deductible.
I know what you mean, these laws are really unfair as most of the tax laws.
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January 12th, 2010, 04:09 PM
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I checked stuff out. It seems that Arizona considers stillbirth "live birth", or they did in 2006. Also a couple states that give a stillbirth credit, small...like under $200 but its something.

We actually haven't gotten a bill yet from the hospital thats actually on my list of things to do this week is call them to find out what the deal is. We will be givng birth again in this spring so I don't really want to have 2 hospital bills at once.

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January 12th, 2010, 04:42 PM
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Last year on my state taxes for Michigan there is a stillborn credit...I think it was $160 or something like that...
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January 12th, 2010, 04:43 PM
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I don't want to be nosy, but do either you or your husband have life insurance that carries a rider for your children? A rider covers all of your children, and many will pay when they are stillborn. Often these policies come as a part of your worker benefit packages. We received life insurance payouts for both Declan and Eva. Like I said, I don't want to be nosy but we didn't think to make a claim (we assumed they wouldn't be covered), but the woman at my work that deals with our benefits etc. contacted our insurance company after we lost Declan and got the claim settled for us. Good luck.
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January 12th, 2010, 06:11 PM
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Thanks. I don't teach in the same school system anymore and I actually don't remember what company they used. I probably wouldn't go back and do it now...at this point i work in admissions for a high school and people are starting to get tax info and fill out our financial aid stuff...hearing about taxes all day every day just made me think of this with having a baby this past year but wondering what the difference was if stillborn.
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January 13th, 2010, 07:31 AM
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Stillborn laws entangled in abortion debate

It looks like Arizona is one of the states that gives a one time tax credit for stillbirth. Your local tax preparer should know more.
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January 13th, 2010, 02:40 PM
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Okay, that's so weird. Idaho isn't on that list. Was I hallucinating when I thought I could get a certificate of birth resulting in stillbirth?

edited to add: nope, I can get a certificate of stillbirth. So is that not the same thing, not good enough for the MISS foundation? Erin's birth certificate is specifically a certificate of live birth, so obviously Cora wouldn't get that because she wasn't born alive. But I can totally get a certificate of stillbirth, still. Maybe I'll do that for her birthday.
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January 13th, 2010, 03:18 PM
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I have a certificate of stillbirth, I can also get a certificate of birth resulting in stillbirth. The certificate of stillbirth is basically a death certificate, that is why they made the other one too.
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January 13th, 2010, 06:09 PM
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I have a certificate of stillbirth, I can also get a certificate of birth resulting in stillbirth. The certificate of stillbirth is basically a death certificate, that is why they made the other one too.
Honestly, to me, I don't see the difference between the two. Maybe it's the attitude I had which is part of the reason I didn't get one back when I lost her. I don't really need an official certificate to tell me she existed.

*shrugs*

I think it's great that it's pushing awareness and acceptance though.
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