[GinaOfAllTrades]

I was wrong about the CM I think. I don't include BD days if DH pulls out so the day I thought I had CM I don't believe it was now. I have been looking at others charts on FF and noticing a pattern with their temps and when they ovulate. Now most of them either check CM on a daily basis or OPK or something like that but they all have a dip in their temp.

So based on that, wouldn't I have O'd on the 13th and not the 9th?

[geogeek]

I don't see clear ovulation at all. Without CM observations it is even harder to interpret. The temperatures seem erratic. With the open circles for the last couple of days it could cause the temperatures to be unreliable. Sorry, but I can't see ovulation having occurred yet. There may be another opinion from more experienced ladies than me

[ShawnaCAN]

Sorry, it's really tough to say without the CM record. Dips are inconclusive by themselves, it's the overall pattern you're looking for. You can confirm ovulation when you have 3 temps which are at least 0.2 degrees above the previous 6. I don't see a thermal shift on your chart yet. If you think you might be breathing with your mouth open at night, you may want to try temping vaginally next cycle. That often helps with the bounciness.

Do include the BD on your record even if DH pulls out though, because pre-ejaculate fluid can escape at any time during intercourse and that can affect what you observe the next day. Men can't feel when that happens. It's also important to record that so that if you conceive, it will make calculating a due date easier.

I don't see clear ovulation either. Temperature only verifies that ovulation has occurred after the fact. Even if you have sex and can't tell immediately what your CM is, there are signs as to what they are even if seminal fluid is on the TP along with your CM.

You can do one of two things. Drop your CM/SF into a cup of water. CM will dissolve, SF will not OR, take it from the toilet paper, rub it on your fingers. SF will dry up, your CM will not.

Then you should be able to chart your CM. It's better to pay attention to that and your vaginal sensation then to just rely on your temps alone, even on your fertile days.

[GinaOfAllTrades]

Thanks ladies. That helps bunches. Like I said before I am really new to all of this.

[ShawnaCAN]

No problem! We were all new to this at one time!

Yep. It's amazing how many of us have learned together. I'm still learning new things.

[LJD3Tdance]

There's always more to learn! Feel free to keep asking questions!