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November 16th, 2009, 02:20 PM
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I posted in the "Am I pregnant board" and they suggested I come here for help.

We are NTNP after I had a horrible experience on the mini pill. I ebf, and have not had a PP period. My son is 4 months old today.

I have no idea if/when I am ovulating. I can't take my temp since I am up on and off all night, at different times. I look at my cm, but I have no idea what to look for. I got pregnant right away with my son, so I don't know anything about charting. I am trying to figure it out, but don't have much time.

The AIP ladies said you might be able to tell me how to figure out my cycles by looking at my cm alone. I have been all of JM trying to get help on figuring this out.

Thanks!
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November 16th, 2009, 02:55 PM
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First off, welcome! I'm Shawna and I teach the Billings Ovulation Method, which is a CM-only system of charting for family planning (TTC or TTA).

Here is an explanation of how that method works:
http://www.woomb.org/learningBOM/B20...nstruction.pdf

It's really normal to be confused trying to figure it out all on your own! I was too when we first started. The fastest and easiest way to learn to do it is to work with a charting instructor, who can give you personalized support with your own charts. Each woman's CM patterns are unique to her, so a teacher can help you figure out what your observations mean for you. There are options to do this in person or online. You can figure out on your own eventually, but it takes a lot longer and is more confusing that way. The link I gave you might seem like a lot of information to digest in one sitting, which is why it usually helps to have a teacher walk you through it.

Does that help answer your question?
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November 16th, 2009, 05:29 PM
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Thanks! I've been dying to learn more about my fertility and charting. It's just hard with a 4 month old.

Do you have any good info on the types of cm?
On the 6th I had cm like nothing I have ever had before. I thought I wet myself. There was just globs of pinkish cm. It lasted for 2 days. I had no idea what it meant.
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November 16th, 2009, 05:33 PM
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November 16th, 2009, 05:39 PM
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Welcome. I learned BOM while breastfeeding my son (I started at 7 months though). Good Luck!
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November 16th, 2009, 05:44 PM
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I added to my post above.
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November 16th, 2009, 05:54 PM
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Yeah, did you read the link I sent?
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November 16th, 2009, 06:02 PM
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Yes, i just did not see an explanation of what the different kinds of cm look like. Page 7 has additional links, but my comp will not let me ope them. I'll have my husband look at it when he is home again.

Thanks for the info.
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November 16th, 2009, 06:09 PM
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Oh that's because each woman's CM is different, so there aren't set rules about how it should look.

To start, you would consider mucus you feel or see as potentially fertile. Epsecially if it's combined with spotting! Then after charting for 2-4 weeks, you can evaluate the patterns to see what's fertile for you and what isn't.
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November 16th, 2009, 06:24 PM
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My husband isn't going to love me for the observation period.
Thanks again for your time!
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November 16th, 2009, 06:46 PM
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Well if you're NT/NP you don't have to be strict about it if you don't want to. It's mostly for those who need to have a good CM baseline for TTA.
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November 17th, 2009, 08:05 AM
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Lauren - Welcome girl!! I use the FAM method. It's similar to Billings and some of the other NFP methods, except you use a barriers if you choose, you don't have to abstain during your fertile times.

You can tell fertility by CM alone and that's a good thing. Temps only confirm that you have indeed ovulated. It doesn't tell you that you are going to.

There are several CM qualities to look out for:

sticky/crumbly, gummy - usually infertile, but it could be a fertile stage for some women. It's not conducive to TTC as it isn't "watery" enough

Creamy/lotiony/Cloudy/Milky - can be fertile quality in some women, but this can mean that you are on your way to ovulation. It is thinner in quality and can be conducive to sperm

Egg-white/Clear/Stretchy/Watery - the most fertile CM you can have and especially conducive to sperm. It's the ideal CM you want to have for TTC.

If you have DTD and can't tell what kind of CM you do have, you can do the finger test. Seminal fluid will dry up on your fingers, CM will not.
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November 17th, 2009, 08:44 AM
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sticky/crumbly, gummy - usually infertile, but it could be a fertile stage for some women. It's not conducive to TTC as it isn't "watery" enough
We conceived #2 due to BDing on a sticky day. I assumed it was infertile too, but it can keep sperm alive if it's part of the beginning of a woman's fertile phase. It can only be considered infertile after 3 cycles are studied, depending on what the patterns are. To start, any and all CM is considered potentially fertile.
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November 17th, 2009, 01:54 PM
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Hi! My daughter is 5 months and I started learning BOM when she was only a few weeks old. I breastfeed as well. I signed up for the online course and my instructor has been wonderful in guiding me so far! Good luck!
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