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Well I have gotten diddly figured out. Well maybe a little. I haven't figured out how to really tell exactly when I am NOT fertile, but I definitely know how to tell when I am. I am definitely fertile right now. I got gobs of EWCM when I check internally and I actually had some externally too! Yay! We haven't bd since cd 6 which was probably longer than we needed to abstain, but I was so confused with my body I figured I was better off abstaining while I figured things out. Now here I am on cd 12 with gobs of CM. I am so ready to O and be done with this sitting things out. Next cycle will be much better because first of all we may decide to try and secondly my cycle should be a little more normal hopefully and third should I end up pregnant it wouldn't be the end of the world if we do decide to avoid. Anyhow, anyone want to talk to my little eggies and tell them to do their thing so I can move on to the next cycle. Don't laugh but the longest dh and I have EVER abstained is 10 days even counting post partum (other than when he was deployed). I was not planning to break that record.