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  #1  
October 29th, 2011, 08:49 AM
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So, I stopped the pill on Tuesday. It was my last week of this pack, I was taking my 2 sugar pills and then Progesterone pills (2 phase pill). I was supposed to start AF anytime this week. TMI: Today, light/moderate bleeding, bright red. Could this not be AF, since it's light, and its breakthrough bleeding? Normally AF opens the floodgates when she arrives. It's the right time for AF, I'm cramping like mad and have sore boobs and I cried over laundry today, so maybe? I'm not sure, what I have read says after going off the pill you sometimes don't get AF right away, this is only 4 days off the pill. How do to differentiate breakthrough bleeding and AF?

Maybe I've just convinced myself that my body is not normal that I'm questioning what is clearly AF?

Now I know all bodies are different, but I have to ask, should I begin charting now, could I start O'ing this soon after the pill? My thermometer will be here Wednesday, if this is really AF I will still be bleeding then and can start temping and checking CM when it stops. I hope to finish my book this weekend/early next week. I'm afraid though if I start charting and don't see anything pointing to O'ing that I'll loose hope. How soon did any of you start charting after going off the pill?
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October 30th, 2011, 10:56 PM
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i started on CD1

but as you can see from my chart, I didn't O my first month, and I'm into 30 something days since going off the pill with no O.
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October 31st, 2011, 07:27 AM
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You can start charting immediately. Just add in the temps when your thermometer arrives. The bleed you are experiencing is likely a withdrawal bleed from the dropping hormones after having stopped the pill. It's normal to ovulate while you're on the pill, so it can happen very soon after you stop too. Or it can take longer. Everybody's body transitions off the hormones differently. Be patient with your body, it is doing a lot of hard work to sort it's hormones out again!

Consider all bleeding or CM potentially fertile right now. Even if you don't ovulate for awhile, you should be able to figure out your Basic Infertile Patten after about 2 - 4 weeks of charting.
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November 1st, 2011, 04:52 AM
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I am still new to this myself, but I definitely encourage temping asap. I am currently on CD69 with no O yet. The only reason I know I haven't O'ed yet is because I have been tracking my temps. If I wasn't, I'd be going bonkers right now.
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November 1st, 2011, 07:01 PM
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Thanks gals! I don't know what withdrawl bleeding is but this feels like AF to me. Woo the cramps, and sore BBs. I didn't know you ovulated on the pill, I thought it stopped that and made your lining uninhabitable, LOL. My Thermometer is not here yet... UGH! I guess I will start checking CM alone, tomorrow maybe... I'm afraid I'll miss a day between when I'm on light spotting and clear, oh boy this will be fun! I guess It will be a learning curve.

I have this unrealistic expectation of myself that my first chart will be perfect, clearly show AF, O and the temp shifts. Hahahaha!

I am using TCOYF and it's doing this weird thing where it puts my other events on the wrong day, anyone else having taht problem?
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November 1st, 2011, 07:23 PM
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You typically don't ovulate while on the pill, but you can. The bleeding you are having is most likely AF (but the withdrawal version) the kind your body forces you to have in between packages of pills. I had that too when I stopped at the end of August, but yet to have a "real" period that occurs after ovulation. While yours might be different, the withdrawal bleed is typically just like AF, at least for me.

Correct me if I am wrong on any of these points, Shawna (she knows wayyy more than me. LOL)

As far as TCOYF acting weird, that hasn't happened to me, so I can't really help there. Good luck with all of this!
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November 1st, 2011, 07:28 PM
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ah ha! oh thank you. i get so confused with all the types of bleeding, i didn't know the 'period' you get on the ill was actually considered a withdrawl bleed since it is forced. but that makes sense. so many types of bleeding, and here i thought it was all just a period.

blah i want to get going on all this and see what my body is doing! i want my thermometer NAO!
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November 2nd, 2011, 07:28 AM
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No worries! I can be super confusing! I've been at this for a few months now and it is still confusing to me too! lol. Good luck!
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November 2nd, 2011, 02:37 PM
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The older versions of the Pill suppressed ovulation more, but the high doses of hormones had really devastating effects on women (heart attack, stroke, breast cancer, etc). So the newer variations of the Pill have much lower levels of synthetic hormone, meaning breakthrough ovulation is more frequent. Nobody knows exactly how often it occurs. If conception results, the inhospitable lining prevents implantation from occurring 7 - 10 days later.

Don't stress to much about your temps. Just track CM and add the temps in when your thermie arrives. Temps only confirm ovulation after it happens, but the CM is what tells you when you're potentially fertile or infertile along the way. You can detect ovulation with CM alone anyway. We stopped using temps when we began using the Billings Ovulation Method and detecting ovulation hasn't been a problem at all (in spite of the fact that my body gears up for it multiple times, thanks to PCOS). Your copy of TCOYF should cover that for you. Don't worry!

You're also off to a great start by dismissing the expectation that your first chart will be textbook. Be open to whatever your body is going to do, because there's just no way to predict what will happen. All we can do is evaluate our fertility, day by day, as it happens - no guessing or predicting what will transpire! Every cycle is unique!
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November 3rd, 2011, 11:39 AM
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Is there a good resource for CM types and helping you identify where yours falls under? I this is day 1 post period, and I forgot to check my CM before I went potty this AM (GR!), so I checked at work and I am... unsure of what I found

TMI: it didn't dry up off my finger, it stayed kind of coated looking and was a bit sticky, so I am assuming sticky. I will check it again when I get home from work since checking multiple times is a good thing, right? How far up there should you go to get an accurate sample? Definitely going to re-read a few chapters of my book when I get home but advice from women actually doing it helps too.

I have to admit as much as I want to do this, and already feel better off the BCP, this is weird, LOL.
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November 3rd, 2011, 01:59 PM
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Each type of charting has a different way of evaluating and classifying CM, so just go with the guidelines outlined in TCOYF. Mixing and matching ways of checking can be more confusing and less helpful, so just stick to one way.

What matters most is the overall pattern. Is the CM the same day by day, or is it changing from day to day? Whether it's fertile or infertile depends on whether it's changing, or unchanging.

Some encourage you to check the toilet paper only, other methods require checking internally. We use the Billings Ovulation Method, which does not require toilet paper checks, internal exams, or touching the CM at all. BOM monitors sensation; paying attention to how wet you feel as you go about your normal daily activities, and writing down what you feel.
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November 3rd, 2011, 05:44 PM
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Thanks! i think that seems to be the key, seeing the changes. it was the same all day so, as i track i will know when i get something different and that will help me understand better.
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November 4th, 2011, 08:42 AM
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YES! Just be consistent and it will make more sense as you go along.
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November 7th, 2011, 05:50 PM
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Charts get clearer and clearer the longer you do them, the beginning is a lot of confusing, hang in there.
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