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August 31st, 2012, 11:44 PM
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Hi, I posted on the weaning board today, but haven't gotten any responses, yet, and this seemed like the *other* most likely board to get some thoughts/similar stories on.

I used FAM for 1.5 years to TTC my daughter. Then I used it again for 3 years to TTC my son. We are currently using it to prevent. Since my son was born, I had 18-52 day cycles, and they were always completely unpredictable. Then 6 months ago, I had a 32 day cycle, and since then, they have averaged 32 days (according to FF), with the lowest being 29 and the highest being 35. I chart CM, but not religiously, and I record cycle days. No temping or anything, because my son still wakes randomly through the night. 4 months ago, we started using CycleBeads. We P&P between CD8 and CD19. This *was* working fine, especially because I always saw a fertile patch between CD13 and CD15, and almost always on CD14.

About halfway through last month, my 3.5yo self-weaned. I didn't seem to react to it at all, hormone-wise. My AF came on August 17th, which was 2 days "early" from what FF predicted, but it was a 29 day cycle, so that wasn't out of the normal range.

We DTD on CD4 and CD5. On CD5, AF ended and watery CM was literally dripping (TMI, sorry!) down my legs. I kept checking to make sure AF had really ended. I also had some noticeable cramping that I even told DH *felt* like O cramps, but couldn't be because it was too early. WE DTD again on CD7, and then switched to P&P on CD8 and after.

It is now CD15 (well, CD16, technically, cuz it's after 1am here.) and I have NO fertility signs. I haven't had any since CD5. What I have had are sore, way large compared to normal (but not engorged, and I can't hand express anything from them), breasts, occasional "period" cramping that was so bad one night that I had trouble sleeping, migraines, a mix of no appetite but then when I do get hungry, I feel like I am STARVING right away, some nausea (but it was the smell of meat and I'm vegan, and I've gotten that before for no reason.), and noticeable fatigue.

Is it possible that weaning my son caused me to O early? And if so, how likely is it that we accidentally caught an egg during our "safe days"?

I'm sorry if anyone is getting annoyed by me posting this in the boards that seem relevant to my questions. I saw some other people cross post, and it seemed okay, so I went for it. If it's a problem, I will be fine with getting rid of the extra posts.

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August 31st, 2012, 11:55 PM
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I have absolutely no idea, but I just wanted to say your post is totally ok for this board, and I hope someone knows the answer for you!!!!

And 3.5 years? Bravo momma!
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September 1st, 2012, 09:57 AM
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Welcome!!!

The trouble with Cycle Beads is that it's really not much more than the old Rhythm or Calender Method. They work moderately well as long as you're regular, but they don't account for the possibility of ovulating earlier or later than usual as other forms of FAM and NFP do. Past cycles are not always the best predictor of when ovulation will occur. Every cycle is unique!

Your CM is an accurate way to determine whether any day is fertile or infertile. If ovulation is going to happen early, the CM will start early. If ovulation is late, the CM will start late. Ovulation is biologically possible as early as day 5. When that happens, the CM can start during AF.

Yes, weaning can change your cycle!

Yes, there's a chance you ovulated early and caught the egg. However, without confirmation that you actually did ovulate at the time you noticed CM - it's hard to say for sure. If you did, a test will be accurate for you in just a few days from now.

Keep us posted!
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September 1st, 2012, 11:51 PM
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Thanks for the replies. I did grab a test, and was thinking of either trying tomorrow or Monday. I haven't decided, yet. I don't wanna test too early and play the evap or faint pos game if I am. Been there, HATE that!

If I'm not I will probably start temping again next cycle since I don't have to get up to nurse at night now. No more CB after this little scare! Although, to it's credit, my mom used rhythm all her life, and had 2 kids 10 years apart. The first one was planned, and my dad swears she rigged the second one, lol. I know it does have it's issues, though.
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September 2nd, 2012, 09:15 AM
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You'll keep us posted, right??
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September 2nd, 2012, 11:39 PM
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Absolutely. Couldn't test this morning. I drank a bunch of water last night before bed, and this morning my FMU was extremely watery. Tried to hold out for SMU, but my mom took me out to breakfast and I had a bunch of coffee and water. So tomorrow morning it is. I'm so nervous!

Also, still no signs that I'm about to ovulate, which keeps making me think I must have already.
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September 3rd, 2012, 09:17 AM
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Test was BFN. Not even a hint of a line to obsess over. I wasn't hoping for a positive, and yet I'm a little sad about it. According to FF, if I O'd on CD5, this would be 13DPO. Also took an OPK, to see if maybe it was coming yet, and that was also negative. In fact, it was lighter than the ones I took on CD13, CD14, and CD15. Go figure.
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September 3rd, 2012, 10:38 AM
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Mucus wise, have you been completely dry ever since the CM around day 5? Or have you noticed any times where you felt particularly wet since then?
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September 5th, 2012, 07:30 AM
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I was dry to slight sticky mucus until CD17. Then I started to get the thick, creamy white CM that usually comes pre-AF.
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September 5th, 2012, 09:40 AM
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Did the thick,creamy stuff make you feel extra wet though? Like when you run to the bathroom to see if AF has arrived, but there's nothing there?
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September 5th, 2012, 10:25 AM
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No, only noticeable when actually checking for CM.
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September 5th, 2012, 03:58 PM
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If you did not happen to ovulate around CD5 and have been fairly dry since then, your body might still attempt it at some point - making this one long pre-ovulatory phase so far.
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September 10th, 2012, 07:56 AM
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So, quick update. CD25. No sign of fertile CM. Neg OPKs EVERY DAY! Not even a hint of a 2nd line. Have not retested. Trying to wait for AF to be late before I do. So, a whole lot of waiting around for something, anything, to happen.
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September 10th, 2012, 08:50 AM
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Oy. That's hard. I second what Shauna said... weaning can definitely mess up your cycles suddenly. Maybe your body was going to try to ovulate early and then didn't go through with it. Maybe you did ovulate but didn't conceive. I would be careful (ha! coming from me!) if you don't want to get pregnant because maybe you didn't ovulate yet.

Though your description of sudden hunger, etc, sounds a whole lot like pregnancy to me. I get exactly like that.

Hope you let us know what happens! I would take a First Response test when you do.
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September 11th, 2012, 08:31 PM
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Okay, so I'm out. It's CD26. I felt some period cramping and backache. A while later I went to check CM for the day, and it *looked* like the thick white creamy stuff. But when I wiped my finger off, I looked at the napkin and it was peachy with streaks of pink and some tiny red dots. So I guess the witch is on her way. It kinda stinks because after CD19, we stopped P&P, and I kinda thought that maybe if I wound up Oing late, it'd be "if it happens, it happens". But whatever, gonna try not to dwell on it. At least I can start temping once this cycle's officially over.
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September 11th, 2012, 11:12 PM
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Simply because you're not absolutely confident about ovulation this past cycle, do consider this bleed potentially fertile (plus 3 days after it stops). It could be related to rising estrogen and another attempt at ovulation if it failed the first time.
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September 13th, 2012, 01:24 PM
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I'll keep that in mind. I was thinking maybe I was having ovulation bleeding, but now it's clearly AF. Took my first temp this morning, it does seem like it's going to be easier now that the kids are sleeping in their own beds and I'm nursling free. Still wish I knew what was up with that last cycle, but oh well.
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