[sweety02]

Hi Ladies,

Pt 1: This past month I took EPO for 8 days starting on CD1. My cycles usually last 23 days and AF visits for the first 4 days, I usually O on day 11 or 12, I want to know if I should take it longer or less?

Pt 2: Each time I checked my CM it was creamy not once did I have EW or W but I did have a spike in temperature and a positive OPK which leads me to believe I O'd this month. After BD at night I wait until the morning to move. Could that have caused my CM to always be creamy?

[ShawnaCAN]

Have you ever been on hormonal contraceptives? Those shrivel up (like aging) the parts of your cervux where good quality CM is produced, so that you make more of the thicker, less fertile CM. While ovulation can continue on the BC, or very shortly after stopping...it can take the cervix much longer to fully recover because it's quite a delicate organ. Recovery can take up to 18 months following use of the Pill, Mirena, implant, or Nuvaring. For Depo, it's longer (up to 3 years) and a higher chance of permanent damage.

If that's not a consideration; do you take antihistamines regularly? High doses of vitamin C? Anti-depressents?

Do you ever notice feeling especially wet or lubricated, even if "creamy" is the only visible CM?

[LJD3Tdance]

I've heard of EPO during pregnancy, what is it used for during your cycle? *curious question, not at all an answer to your question*

[sweety02]

Originally Posted by ShawnaCAN

Have you ever been on hormonal contraceptives? Those shrivel up (like aging) the parts of your cervux where good quality CM is produced, so that you make more of the thicker, less fertile CM. While ovulation can continue on the BC, or very shortly after stopping...it can take the cervix much longer to fully recover because it's quite a delicate organ. Recovery can take up to 18 months following use of the Pill, Mirena, implant, or Nuvaring. For Depo, it's longer (up to 3 years) and a higher chance of permanent damage.

If that's not a consideration; do you take antihistamines regularly? High doses of vitamin C? Anti-depressents?

Do you ever notice feeling especially wet or lubricated, even if "creamy" is the only visible CM?

@ShawnaCAN yes a few years ago I did use Nuvaring. And recently i've been taking airborne to prevent me from catching a cold. Thank you so much that is very helpful.

Originally Posted by LJD3Tdance

I've heard of EPO during pregnancy, what is it used for during your cycle? *curious question, not at all an answer to your question*

@LJD3Tdance It is supposed to boost fertility by increasing CM, strengthening the placenta and increase the uterine lining.

[ShawnaCAN]

I don't know anything about airborne, but if it contains an antihistamine - that can dry up good quality CM. Anything that affects mucus in your face can affect it elsewhere!

There are also some suspicians that the Nuvaring is especially hard on the cervix, because hormones are secreted at absorbed right there - rather than passing through your bloodstream first. Unfortunately, it's still so new that we don't yet know all the long term effects and whether permanent damage is possible or not. If it's been less than 3 years since you stopped using it, your cervix could still be healing.

[sweety02]

Originally Posted by ShawnaCAN

I don't know anything about airborne, but if it contains an antihistamine - that can dry up good quality CM. Anything that affects mucus in your face can affect it elsewhere!

There are also some suspicians that the Nuvaring is especially hard on the cervix, because hormones are secreted at absorbed right there - rather than passing through your bloodstream first. Unfortunately, it's still so new that we don't yet know all the long term effects and whether permanent damage is possible or not. If it's been less than 3 years since you stopped using it, your cervix could still be healing.

Airborne is an immune boaster that has a large amount of Vitamin C as well as Zinc and other vitamins to support the immune system.

I heard that recently and tried to find information on the side effects but couldn't find anything. That'll be a good conversation to have with my doctor. I found a Diocese here in Orlando that has a NFP Physician so i'll also seek a second opininon.

[ShawnaCAN]

Vitamin C is a mucus inhibitor in high doses, so that might be one factor here. Let us know how things go with the NFP physician!