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May 12th, 2009, 11:03 PM
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Hi,
I have a 13 month old DS who nurses in the morning and at night before bed (he started sleeping through the night at 10 months and nightweaned himself). I got my AF back when he was almost exactly nine months old.

I was pregnant (approx. 5 weeks along but not sure as my cycle was weird) but had a miscarriage (suspected ectopic, long story but my doc. still isn't sure and now they are following my beta numbers to zero...last week my beta was still 6,500 but tmi alert I started bleeding more heavily the last few days leading my doc to suspect my numbers had dropped sharply, I will find out tomorrow) and a d+c almost two weeks ago. From what I have read on this board miscarriages are common when still nursing and ttc? I have read various posts on taking supplements to help while ttc but as I am new I had trouble following along on the posts. Should I take B vitamins, which ones, how much, etc. Any other advice on what I can take to help get my body ready to hopefully conceive again and this time sustain the pregnancy.
Thank you!
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May 13th, 2009, 05:11 AM
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Hey! Really sorry for your miscarriage. I did miscarry too, when my DD was 16mths. Thankfully it was very early so I didn't need a D&C or anything (actually relooking at your post we were the same, 5wks along....) well, I spotted for a few days then bled heavy for about 8 days and the actual 'egg' came out on tissue so I never went back to the docs. My AF came 8 weeks later although I have read that that can vary alot.
2mths later I started charting my temps to find out what was happening with my cycle - which was ever varying between 24 and 31 days long. It turns out I had a short luteal phase. This is the days between ovulation and AF which need to be 10 minimum to concieve and can be the most common cause of early miscarriage. Basically the egg hasn't enough time to implant before your normal AF hormones come along (if the egg had more time it would over-ride your AF hormones by increasing progesterone production). My luteal phase has been stuck on 7 or 8 days for over a year. I've researched loads and was confused between knowing whether this WAS because of nursing or a fixable unrelated - or side effect - of nursing. Experts in both the GP fields and breastfeeding specialist can't even seem to agree.
That led me to look for natural 'cures' that would mean I don't have to force my daughter to wean before she is ready (although we have cut down to just bedtime, night and a morning feed). If this didn't work then I accepted I would have to wait until total weaning to concieve.
Well, first I tried Agnus Castus and Red raspberry and they helped increase my EWCM - and progesterone levels and reduced PMS symptoms BUT my luteal phase remained at 7 or 8 days. Then I found an article saying that B6 100% cures this 'issue' but needs to be a high dose - so between 50mg and 300mg daily. I tried 100mg for one cycle, no change, so I tried 200mg and my LP went to 10days. Last cycle - still taking 200mg - I got 11 days. I'm waiting to see what this cycle brings. But it PROOVES it works! And fast! If only I knew a year ago!
I can't say, however, if this is at all related to you.The only way you will tell if this is your issue and not just an unfortunate miscarriage and you'll concieve again quickly and fine is to chart/find your ovulation for a few cycles to see if your LP is under 10 days too. You could start with just 50mg of B6 to 'help' regulate your hormones anyways. It is an essential vitamin for early foetus development anyways so is good even if you don't have a short LP.

As for nursing - I have a theory, unproven of course. Just speculation I guess but I believe that during pregnancy, birth and nursing your body uses its cache of vitamins to bring your current child into the world and nourish them. Nursing does change your hormones to prevent pregnancy in the early months and in a healthy mum fertility returns quickly but if you don't get enough B6 from natural diet (I'm a very fussy eater) perhaps your left with a shortage? Or your hormones just get out of balance and need help getting back even when not nursing much. Some sites say that 'in a few rare women they cannot concieve until nursing is finished completely' but perhaps it just seems that way because the body is giving away its vital vitamins into the milk and the mother hasn't enough for herself, nursing AND creating another child.

Anyhoo, hope that helps! Feel free to ask me anything else! (Oh yeah, I also take a multivitamin and folic acid daily now too..but it was definitely just the B6 that cured my LP)
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Seperated June 2010 from my husband. One daughter DOB 26/07/2006. BFP 06/01/2011, due september but 'high risk' for premature birth.

Hi. Im Jolene. 31 years old. I suffered three years of a short luteal phase and didnt think I could get pregnant again without medical assistance but fell pregnant by accident and naturally. I am really happy and excited to be having a baby although knowing Im going it alone this time is a bit daunting and scary!
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May 13th, 2009, 12:40 PM
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Hi there and Welcome! Sorry to hear about your Miscarriage! Jo has been going through the TTC while breastfeeding longer than most of us so all she said above is about what I would have to add because I have learned a lot from her posts.

I am the host of this board for now my name is Brittany and my DS is Ethan 10 months old!
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May 13th, 2009, 06:01 PM
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Hello and Welcome! I'm very sorry about your loss, I know how hard misscarriages are, I went through one about 4 years ago, very difficult...
Anyways I'm Elise i'm 21, my husband is 27. We are TTC#3! My daughter is nearly 34 months, my son is nearly 7 months. I also don't have anything to add to Jo's post, i'm still waiting to see whether the bleeding I have recently had was actually my first pp period or not. If it was i'm currently charting my 1st cycle and am not sure whether i'll need to take anything to help me along.
Keep us all posted where your numbers are at
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May 13th, 2009, 11:01 PM
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Thank you all for the welcome posts! I am not sure how long my LP is since my cycles have been weird but I am going to try and chart when my AF comes back (right now I have been bleeding fairly heavy for a week, do I wait for that to end and then wait again for AF?). I did start taking B6 supplements (it is a combo with B12 and folic acid) so I will up that to 200 mg. Also the progesterone info is interesting. My progesterone with the miscarriage was really low (approx. 4) but my doctor said that was because I was going to miscarry and wouldn't give me supplements. I wonder if the breastfeeding is lowering it and was a cause of my m/c or if it was just an indicator.

My beta results came back at 1,615 (down from 6,500 a week ago) so that is good news.

Thanks again for the advice and the posts welcoming me!
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May 14th, 2009, 12:57 AM
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Heya again! With AF it depends on how you feel. They say not to get pregs again after a miscarriage until you have had another AF. Therefore you could avoid the chance of getting pregs then start charting from the first day of your next bleed. I know, with me, I just got totally obsessed with wanting to get pregs again straight away. I think it was how I coped, thinking ahead to a new pregnancy rather than think about the lost, although I did grieve and wrote a private post to my unborn on Myspace. Even though I was only 5wks and hadn't even known for long I named 'her' Rose....
If you decide you want to try straight away then, hmm, you could chart or use OPK's to catch the next egg. As I said I went 8wks before my AF came so you may have to wait a while and your chart might not represent your normal pattern.

As for progesterone - yes, nursing does lower it. Everytime your child nurses prolactin is released which lowers progesterone. It is this low progesterone which also causes - or is detected - through the luteal phase being short. I suppose its possible that this is another thing that varies between women and is why some of us can get pregs whilst nursing and others struggle. Levels could be low-to-moderate normally and would be fine for concieving first time round but nursing on top of your usual levels lowers it too much whereas someone else with very high levels (which could also explain those with high fertility who get pregs at a drop of the hat) can take the drop that nursing causes because they still got plenty.
I was thinking about getting progesterone cream but so far, as I tried B6 first, haven't needed to.
If low progesterone caused your miscarriage then it IS good news as it gives you something to 'fix'. I only wish I had known all this sooner!
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Seperated June 2010 from my husband. One daughter DOB 26/07/2006. BFP 06/01/2011, due september but 'high risk' for premature birth.

Hi. Im Jolene. 31 years old. I suffered three years of a short luteal phase and didnt think I could get pregnant again without medical assistance but fell pregnant by accident and naturally. I am really happy and excited to be having a baby although knowing Im going it alone this time is a bit daunting and scary!
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