[Jessica C]

Is it possible to have negative OPK's and STILL have a thermal shift indicating O?

And, do ALL noticable thermal shifts mean for sure your that you O'd?

Reason I'm asking is I've had negative OPK's since Thursday, I should O today or tomorrow (I don't know why I started them so early). This is my third month charting...the first month I got dotted CH (I thought due to lack of EWCM); the second month I had solid CH then FF changed to dotted after I dipped below CL a couple of times; and this month I think the shift happened today which means O was yesterday (yet another day early in my cycle). So, does that mean I'm not really Oing and that's why the OPK's are negative? But, if I have a thermal shift does that mean I O'd with the negative OPK's?

Sorry to ramble with the questions. I hope everybody knows what I'm asking. The questions just started flying from my brain to my fingers.

[MamaAnna]

What kind of OPKs are you using? Some women can't use certain types and just need to change brands.

[Jessica C]

They are Safeway brand, I couldn't find FRER or another name brand , but from pictures I've seen I think they are equivalent to CVS or Target brand. I got test lines on all of them, and they looked exactly the same, but they were all faint lines. They looked fairly dark until the dye made it's way to the other side and I waited the 3 minutes, then they faded out.

If it's those little strip test ones, I could never get a "proper" positive on those I would keep using them, but go with FF and your CM. It all depends on what your temp does over next few days.

[sjkduke]

I would definitely keep testing...and hang tight--hopefull you'll see some change in your chart soon! Keep us posted!