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November 17th, 2008, 09:44 AM
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ok, im just curious on what it means to still have watery CM after ovuatlion?
im pretty sure i o'd on Friday the 14th and as you can see we had bd many times before that and some after - Saturday and Sunday i was still producing Watery CM as well as today - does it mean im still fertile or is it lefover semen or is it just a estrogen being released - if so that, does that make my chances of getting prego less?
if you look at my chart- it does look like i o'd right? or should we still be bding?
thanks ladies
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November 17th, 2008, 10:15 AM
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I think it's too early to confirm ovulation for you (and I definitely disagree with FF's interpretation). You need 3 temps which are higher than the previous 6 temps to confirm a thermal shift (no check). You also need the CM to dry up after developing to the point of becoming slippery (no check there either). Give it a few more days. As long as you notice watery or slippery CM, keep BDing and for a few days after it ends. Every other day is fine though, you don't need to BD every day if TTC is getting stressful.
One more case where FF gets all hot and bothered about a "dip" and puts crosshairs some place silly when the other signs don't even indicate ovulation yet! FF loves dips!
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November 17th, 2008, 11:57 AM
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I think it's too early to confirm ovulation for you (and I definitely disagree with FF's interpretation). You need 3 temps which are higher than the previous 6 temps to confirm a thermal shift (no check). You also need the CM to dry up after developing to the point of becoming slippery (no check there either). Give it a few more days. As long as you notice watery or slippery CM, keep BDing and for a few days after it ends. Every other day is fine though, you don't need to BD every day if TTC is getting stressful.
One more case where FF gets all hot and bothered about a "dip" and puts crosshairs some place silly when the other signs don't even indicate ovulation yet! FF loves dips![/b]
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thank you so much for the reply - im still so new at this - ok so you really made me think and i went home for lunch and took an OPK test and it was positive - well looked that way to me, it wasn't as dark as the control line but it was as dark - but the thing is my CM is watery but kind of stretchy, but there isn't alot of it, it also doens't stretch that far without breaking, do you think this is still fertile CM?
i have a killer headache today, so im not sure if BD is in the plans but if you guys still think im fertile and should be bding than i can make a sacrifice and bd tonight  that thing is when i did have the watery and eggwhite CM when i think i ovulated, i hate alot of it and it was stretchy!!
let me know what you guys think
thanks!
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November 17th, 2008, 12:12 PM
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thank you so much for the reply - im still so new at this - ok so you really made me think and i went home for lunch and took an OPK test and it was positive - well looked that way to me, it wasn't as dark as the control line but it was as dark - but the thing is my CM is watery but kind of stretchy, but there isn't alot of it, it also doens't stretch that far without breaking, do you think this is still fertile CM?
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*All* CM is potentially fertile. Don't worry about stretching it or measuring it, no need to touch it at all actually. Just if you notice feeling very wet or slippery while you walk around during the day, you're very fertile!
I'm bit confused about your OPK though. Was it as dark as the control line?
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November 17th, 2008, 12:19 PM
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Unless your temp takes an upward jump I don't think you've O'd yet. FF could be thrown by the dip, but if your temps level back out it will take the CH's away. With the way it calculates your base line you need to watch the temps very carefully. I like to see a 4-5 day pattern at least before I believe any charting software. An OPK needs the test line to be as dark as or darker than the control line. If it's not as dark as the control line then the test is negative. You may be catching it on the rise and your next will be positive, or you could have caught it on the way down and the next will be a much more obvious negative. BD'ing every other day is a way to cover your bases without wearing yourselves out and it makes BD'ing feel a little less forced in the long run. Good luck!
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November 17th, 2008, 12:33 PM
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Unless your temp takes an upward jump I don't think you've O'd yet. FF could be thrown by the dip, but if your temps level back out it will take the CH's away. With the way it calculates your base line you need to watch the temps very carefully. I like to see a 4-5 day pattern at least before I believe any charting software. An OPK needs the test line to be as dark as or darker than the control line. If it's not as dark as the control line then the test is negative. You may be catching it on the rise and your next will be positive, or you could have caught it on the way down and the next will be a much more obvious negative. BD'ing every other day is a way to cover your bases without wearing yourselves out and it makes BD'ing feel a little less forced in the long run. Good luck![/b]
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it wasn't as dark as the control line but it was alot darker than my other's i have taken! i will probably take another test tonight!!
good to know about bding everyother day - i just have a fear that im going ot miss my chance!!! i will wait a few more days to see if i o'd yet or if the FF is correct!
if you ladies could check on my charts to see if it looks accurate that would be WONDERFUL!!!!
i do notice that i only had the watery CM in the moring and also if i kind of push i get more CM!!! but again, not alot like i did last week - on the TP it kind of looks like gloss (sorry TMI) when i walk i really don't feel wet down there, but i did last week!!
thanks again!!!
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November 17th, 2008, 01:12 PM
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Anything lighter than the control line is a negative. You can take an OPK just about any time and have at least a faint test line. I've only had a couple that have been completely blank. At least we get to see a second line though!
As far as the CM goes your fertile CM can come and go throughout your cycle. Record the most fertile you experienced that day. By BD'ing every other day you will cover your fertile window pretty well. Hitting O day isn't vital since the swimmers can live for several days in there. Plus by BD'ing every other day it gives your SO's supply time to build back up which can be important.
If you look at my charts there are a couple (this one included) where O day is marked as the day after a dip. As far as I've been able to figure out FF (depending on the method) uses all of your pre-O temps to establish the baseline. I could be wrong, though. That's just what I've noticed based on my charts and a calculator. As I said before, no software is 100% accurate.
I really hope you get your BFP!
Oh, and on a side note, your FF ticker is also a link to your chart so you don't need the separate link at the bottom.
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November 17th, 2008, 01:33 PM
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Anything lighter than the control line is a negative. You can take an OPK just about any time and have at least a faint test line. I've only had a couple that have been completely blank. At least we get to see a second line though!
As far as the CM goes your fertile CM can come and go throughout your cycle. Record the most fertile you experienced that day. By BD'ing every other day you will cover your fertile window pretty well. Hitting O day isn't vital since the swimmers can live for several days in there. Plus by BD'ing every other day it gives your SO's supply time to build back up which can be important.
If you look at my charts there are a couple (this one included) where O day is marked as the day after a dip. As far as I've been able to figure out FF (depending on the method) uses all of your pre-O temps to establish the baseline. I could be wrong, though. That's just what I've noticed based on my charts and a calculator. As I said before, no software is 100% accurate.
I really hope you get your BFP!
Oh, and on a side note, your FF ticker is also a link to your chart so you don't need the separate link at the bottom.[/b]
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heheh thank for you the side note, i will go and fix that
i really hope i get my BFP as well, it was meant to be it will show, and if itwasn't meant to be it just wasn't - i know its in god's hands and i will let him chose!!!
i just have this really good feeling this month !!
i seen on my last cycle chart, my o day was after i had a huge dip! so im thinking that i could still possibly O! we will just keep on doing it everyone day to make sure we don't miss anything  but im glad we did do it on the days we did have water and CM just in case i did o than!!!!!!
yah it was lighter so i will test again tonight - this is my first cycle with OPK! not really used to them yet!!!
thanks again for your help!!!!
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November 17th, 2008, 03:37 PM
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If you can afford them you could try the digital OPKs. They're quite a bit more expensive, but when you're fertile you get a smiley face. It's much easier to interpret. I don't use them since my O date varies by so much (it'd get REALLY expensive), but they're the ones my OB recommended.
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November 18th, 2008, 08:47 AM
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If you can afford them you could try the digital OPKs. They're quite a bit more expensive, but when you're fertile you get a smiley face. It's much easier to interpret. I don't use them since my O date varies by so much (it'd get REALLY expensive), but they're the ones my OB recommended.[/b]
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hmm i may have to look into them later on!! as of right now my temp really hasnt' dropped it went back up, but still producing some watery CM that is kind of stretchy, but again don't know if that is left over semen(SORRY TMI) b/c we did end up BDing last night but taking tonight off. so far this morning i had some lower cramps, that didn't know why i had them b/c i ate breakfast this morning! kind of weird!! hmm, just kind of want to know what is going on with my body!!!!!
thanks again for all your help!!!
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November 19th, 2008, 12:14 AM
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I used the digital OPKs for one cycle and didn't get the smiley face at all, despite getting +s on my regular OPKs. So there's pro's and con's for them like all pee sticks
GL this cycle!!
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November 19th, 2008, 12:40 PM
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ok ladies, today my temp is still high and my CM is kind of there but more on the sticky/creamy side! this morning i barely had any and just went to the bathroom and noticed a bit more down there! kind of weird!!! so does this mean i still haven't o'd, that i have issues  or does it mean something entirely different?!?!
since dh and i are now going to bd every other night , i just hope i dind't miss anything
thanks again ladies for all your help!!! you have been FANTASTIC!
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