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March 20th, 2009, 05:55 PM
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Eye sea ewe.
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Well it's supposed to be baby making week around here, but I have not had one iota of CM change. That's the only thing I really chart by, my sleep schedule is too erratic to ever be able to rely on basal temps.
I'm a little stressed from not getting pregnant last month as it is. But I was dealt a pretty heavy blow from extended family yesterday.
So I'm just wondering if I'll O later in my cycle than usual (I have a pretty faithful 28-29 day cycle and always know when I'm O-ing because of CM) or should I just give up for this month and hope I'm feeling better next cycle?
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March 20th, 2009, 06:46 PM
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Mega Super Mommy
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I dont think I would give up this month. Maybe you are just going to O late. My CM hasnt changed much either this month so we have Been BD'ing every other night since the 2nd just to make sure we dont miss any eggie that may be waiting. Good luck to you and I hope this month is your month.
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March 21st, 2009, 05:56 AM
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Platinum Supermommy
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It doesn't stop it completely, just delays it. (at least, as far as I know) So, I would just keep an eye on your CM, and continue on like always.
Sorry about the bad news you received.
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March 22nd, 2009, 12:24 PM
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Eye sea ewe.
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Hey.
I'm trying to stay hopeful but so far no CM changes at all.
DH is getting pretty tired though, so I'm giving him today off heheheheh Maybe in a few more days.
But I've made up my mind that even though I'm only on cycle 2 now, if I don't get my BFP this month I'm going to tell my doc I don't want to wait a full 6 months to try the Clomid. I think that would give me more peace of mind so I could quit stressing about it and just relax. Hopefully he'll be Ok with that.
I'll KYP.
Hope everyone's having a good weekend.
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March 22nd, 2009, 01:58 PM
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Mega Super Mommy
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Quote:
Originally Posted by foxfire_ga79
Hey.
I'm trying to stay hopeful but so far no CM changes at all.
DH is getting pretty tired though, so I'm giving him today off heheheheh Maybe in a few more days.
But I've made up my mind that even though I'm only on cycle 2 now, if I don't get my BFP this month I'm going to tell my doc I don't want to wait a full 6 months to try the Clomid. I think that would give me more peace of mind so I could quit stressing about it and just relax. Hopefully he'll be Ok with that.
I'll KYP.
Hope everyone's having a good weekend.
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Do you think you are having trouble ovulating? Have you had your FSH (follicle stimulating hormone) levels tested, and your progesterone? Do you use OPK's? Sorry for all the questions but, if you are ovulating properly but you are timing it incorrectly, and you start to take Clomid for a problem you don't have, then it could actually delay you becoming pregnant. Kind of like "If it's not broke, don't fix it." You sound a lot like me though. You don't want to waste any time, and you want to make sure everything is working "properly." I TOTALLY understand. This is our 1st cycle of TTC, but here's what I've done so far. First of all on CD3 I went and had my blood drawn. They checked my FSH levels (all of which were in normal range yay!) Then, on CD20 (I'm currently on CD16,) I will go back and have my blood drawn again to check my Progesterone levels. That will indicate that I ovulated properly. I also started Temping, created a fertility corner in our house, checking CM, using OPK's, and of course LOTS of BDin' with Pre-Seed.  According to EVERYTHING, I am Oing today. If my temp doesn't go up though, I will be very suspicious, and that's why I'm having my progesterone checked. Anyway, I would have your levels checked before starting Clomid. I definetely wouldn't give up this cycle. I thought I would O on CD14, but it's actually CD16. Just do some BDin, and try and catch that egg!!!  Good Luck!
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March 22nd, 2009, 04:05 PM
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Stress can definitely delay ovulation. At times it can be an extended delay too. I would just try not to worry much, and keep track of it. If it continues to happen you might want to talk to your doctor about it.
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March 22nd, 2009, 04:39 PM
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Depending on how much stress you're under ovulation can be delayed by just a couple of days or even weeks. Usually it does still happen, but in some cases of extreme stress it won't happen at all. The odds of that are pretty slim though. Just keep an eye on your CM so you spot it when it does happen. Also, you can BD every other day so your DH doesn't get too tired, but your bases are still covered. We conceived by BD'ing the day before O and missed pretty much the rest of the window so we're proof you don't have to hit every day.
Also, is there a reason you've discussed Clomid with your doctor? That's what we needed, but I have PCOS. If you don't have a reason to use it then it could severely reduce your odds rather than help them.
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March 22nd, 2009, 06:01 PM
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Mega Super Mommy
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And try to keep in mind that even if you have the perfect cycle as far as timing, sperm count and the perfect O you still have a 25-30% chance of conception happening. If your hormones are right, and you are ovulating in the correct window (yup, I said window) then trying to force something can make it worse instead of helping. If your body doesn't need the extra hormones from the clomid you could confuse your system to the point of not cycling correctly.
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March 23rd, 2009, 06:38 AM
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Eye sea ewe.
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Good morning.
No, I have not had any blood work done. I guess I should do that before I beg for Clomid. My doctor had mentioned it by mistake, I'm not really sure how it happened. After I didn't get a BFP last cycle I was worried and called to ask what I should do, since I've never not gotten pregnant when I tried. I spoke to a nurse who kept going back and forth between me and the doc and calling me back. She said that he wrote in my chart not to worry just yet since it was just my first try this time around, and to keep taking the Clomid. I explained to her I've never taken Clomid a day in my life, that my ease of getting pregnant is a running joke with family and friends. But after thinking about it I told her that I thought it would be Ok to give it a try. She went back and asked him and then he said what you ladies said, since my periods are so perfectly regular it indicates that I'm ovulating and if I am, they don't want to mess with something running normal. (Why did he think I had been on Clomid?)
I'm pretty sure I know when I O every month, rhythm method is the BC I've been using off and on for the past 10 years. I don't chart basal temp, my sleep schedule is so erratic I would never get an accurate reading. But my CM is as faithful as anyone could ever hope for. I've been pregnant 5 times, all 5 times I conceived between days 14-16 of my cycles.
I thought I O'd last month, but since I didn't get a BFP now I'm not so sure. I never got a positive OPK and 1 of my main O symptoms never showed up. There were CM changes but not to the normal extent.
Still this morning, no CM changes at all. Now, the stress issues in the past few weeks have been dropped on me like a bomb. My parents have been married 31 years and now my dad is having an affair. While my mom is out of town taking care of her mom, dad moved his new GF into the house and changed the locks, says mom can't come back and all she has with her now is a suitcase of clothes. My sister and I have fought so much we've decided we're just never speaking to each other again. So in a nutshell, in my house things are well with DH and me but the rest of my family is falling apart. I'm over the initial shock and dealing with this now but obviously this isn't something that's just going to go away any time soon.
And so now I'm worried I might not O at all this month. Having gotten pregnant 5 times on the first try each makes this all the more disturbing to me. I know there are countless things to take into consideration when having trouble conceiving, and it's not helping me that every person I know says "quit thinking about it."
So I guess I'll ask about blood tests before I start begging for Clomid. That sounds more logical for the time being.
I've been worried about the frequency of BD-ing. I'm affraid that only every other day, there might not be enough troops that last that long, but if we BD every day there might not be any left at all either. DH is 41 now. He's diabetic, but now under control. When we concieved twice in the beginning of our marriage he was diabetic but not yet diagnosed and treated for it so it couldn't have been under control.
I'm taking metformin now, but I'm insulin resistant and have to deal with drastic sugar drops. I've always been like that and wasn't diagnosed or treated until after I had my last child, still no trouble conceiving.
I know I'm thinking about it too much. It's just so disappointing. You're right, I don't want to let a lot of time slip by. I'm 30 and don't want to get too much older and try to cope with the physical demands of pregnancy. My youngest is almost 4 and I don't want too much space between them. And I'm just plain looking forward to my family being "complete."
So anyway I don't want to keep rambling on forever. I do really appreciate being able to come here and get such good advice. This is the only place I can come to where people don't tell me to quit thinking about it or that it's no big deal. I know I'm making it a bigger deal than it needs to be but it's nice to at least have my concerns addressed. Thank you all so much.
Have a nice day!
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March 23rd, 2009, 12:00 PM
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You mentioned Metformin and insulin resistance. Do you have PCOS by chance? Both of mine were conceived while trying not to get pregnant. Then this time we tried for 11 months before I was diagnosed with PCOS. The first cycle of Clomid didn't work, but we got our BFP after the second cycle. That was our 13th cycle.
The stress with your family could also be a problem. It could definitely have a negative impact on ovulation, though you may find that as more cycles go by your body adjusts to the higher stress levels. Also, they don't typically consider a woman to have trouble conceiving after so little time trying. Typically it's 12 months, though if a woman is 35+ or has had no issue in the past they may consider her as having trouble after just 6 months.
Last edited by MamaAnna; March 23rd, 2009 at 12:03 PM.
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March 23rd, 2009, 01:04 PM
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Eye sea ewe.
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I was never diagnosed with PCOS. But I just went and looked up symptoms and I don't think I have it.
My blood sugar is too low, c-peptides are too high. None of the problems with my hair. No significant weight gain. (I gained 10 lbs last year but that only put me up to a whopping 119, and I've lost 4 lbs back.)
My AF's are regular like clockwork. None of the PCOS things really add up for me.
You're probably right that my doc isn't likely to think I'm having actual problems after only 2 cycles. I just know that if I don't get a BFP this month it would be strange for *me*, not strange compared to average. I just wish I could quit thinking about it like everyone tells me to.
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