Holy Crap! Ladies, Is that...

Coley · #1 May 6th, 2009, 10:07 AM

a COVERLINE?!?!?

http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/26ef23

I've NEVER had a coverline before!!

I'm kinda torn here. I mean, part of me wants to be excited that I've got a coverline, which means I may have actually ovulated (after tons of annovulatory cycles!) and FF is saying I'm 3 DPO. According to my chart, I did have an increased sex drive in the days leading up to what FF is calling O day and there was what appears to be a Thermal Shift (another thing I've NEVER had before!)

On the other hand I haven't seen any EWCM. It got pretty watery and we did use PreSeed during one of our BD sessions, but I never saw actual EW. Things kinda went dry, but now it's creamy and abundant. My cervix is definitely High and Soft... I'm not so sure about the whole "Open" part. I'm still getting familiar with how all of that feels.

So, part of me is wondering if FF is off it's rocker and I haven't actually O'd yet or if "watery" is as good as it gets for me. Crap! I've been taking Evening Primrose Oil to help with the lack of EWCM, but you're supposed to stop taking it after you've O'd because it can cause uterine contractions. Should we keep BD'ing thinking that it hasn't happened yet? Should I stop taking the EPO and presume FF is correct and see what happens?

So let's have it ladies. Take a peek at the chart and tell me what you think!

ShawnaCAN · #2 May 6th, 2009, 10:16 AM

That doesn't look like a shift to me, just FF being dumb again.

For some women, watery is as good as it gets. But how would you compare the last few "creamy" days to the creamy days on CD9-13? Are you drier now than you were before the wet days, about the same, or wetter?

Coley · #3 May 6th, 2009, 01:10 PM

Ok... I think I agree with you... FF is being dumb. I know I've read postings from other ladies questioning what their FF charts were saying, so it shouldn't be surprising that I'd create one of those postings myself. I think I might have let myself get thrown by looking at other people's charts and thinking that things should happen at certain times forgetting we are all unique. Plus, I kinda freaked thinking I O'd already... worrying if we BD'd enough! ROFL!

I would have to say that I feel wetter than I did then. When I was creamy before, it was more of an internal thing. I actually used DF's magnifying contact lens mirror to take a peek and and it seems as if it's leaking now, when it wasn't doing that before. Also, this is the first time this cycle that I've felt actual wetness on my underwear. Is it ok if CM fluctuates back and forth like that? Because most things I've read/seen, it seems to be a natural progression from sticky to creamy to watery to egg white. Is it normal to go from creamy to watery back to creamy and then on to a fertile CM all in one cycle?

ShawnaCAN · #4 May 6th, 2009, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Coley

Is it ok if CM fluctuates back and forth like that? Because most things I've read/seen, it seems to be a natural progression from sticky to creamy to watery to egg white. Is it normal to go from creamy to watery back to creamy and then on to a fertile CM all in one cycle?

Ok, if you are more wet - then you definitely are not past ovulation yet.

Yes, it's more than ok. It's very normal. Every woman is unique, every cycle is unique. Not everyone follows that exact progression, so try to drop expectations about what your cycle should do. Your cycle is unique and it will do what it wants to do.

With the CM, a pattern of fertility is a changing pattern. The CM changes over the course of several days, increasing in wetness. For many women, the mucus becomes clear towards ovulation, but not for everyone. It's more important to pay attention to how the mucus makes you feel than what it looks like. To recognize a mucus Peak, you're looking for:

A) A developing, changing pattern
B) That becomes slippery or lubricative
C) And is followed by a drastic drying up

It doesn't matter how that pattern develops and changes, just that it has to do all 3 of those things. The last day that you feel slippery (even if you don't see anything) is the mucus Peak day. Peak day is the day most closely related to ovulation, it usually happens on that day or 1 or 2 days after Peak.

Hope that helps!

Coley · #5 May 7th, 2009, 07:36 AM

Actually, that helps A LOT! I need to just let my cycle do it's thing and observe.

I did pick up a box of OPK's today, it will be my first time ever using them. Hopefully that will provide a bit of clarity too.

dapgal · #6 May 10th, 2009, 07:27 PM

Looking at your chart today it looks like your temps are still high and headed in the right direction. Maybe you did have an actual O day. One of my friends only had watery fluid and got pregnant. She actually didn't think it was going to happen that month because her fluid was better in the previous months but it did happen that month so you never know. You also look like me in that you have a lot of days of creamy. With me I always seem to have creamy even when I am not fertile. I had creamy after I got pregnant the first time around so creamy may be your normal non-fertile mucous. If you are ever in question, just keep on BD'ing until you see more high temperatures. Good luck!

sjkduke · #7 May 11th, 2009, 02:51 AM

I agree!!! Good luck!!!

Coley · #8 May 11th, 2009, 09:01 AM

Ya know... at first I thought that FF was on crack. But as the days continue and I note my temps and all, I am starting to think that maybe FF got it right. I mean, just because my thermal shift doesn't look like everyone else's, or isn't as high as everyone else's, doesn't mean it isn't right for me, ya know? Everyone is different, and while it may not be a classic temp chart, all that matters is if it's working for me, yeah?

I've noticed that there almost always seems to be something on the tissue when I wipe, so I'm much like you with the creamy!! LOL!!

FF says according to my history that AF should be here tomorrow. So, we'll see what happens.

Thanks so much for the encouragement! I'm glad to hear from someone else who doesn't have the usual EWCM! Makes me feel less alone!! LOL!!

dapgal · #9 May 11th, 2009, 07:16 PM

Good luck!!

Coley · #10 May 12th, 2009, 07:18 AM

So far so good.

is supposed to be here today, but I haven't seen her.

I had some really bad cramping last night, which were just like AF cramps, but only really on the left side. I was crampy until I fell asleep, then this morning my temp was 98.0 and no cramps. Usually, the 1st day of AF my temp is 97.5

So... I dunno... I guess we'll see.

dapgal · #11 May 12th, 2009, 08:55 PM

That is a good sign. When I was pg with #1 I swore AF was coming, I had cramps just like I do right before I start. I hope you get your BFP.

Coley · #12 May 13th, 2009, 05:09 AM

Man... the past couple of days have been rough!!

Yesterday I got cramps again, followed by a nice batch of nausea complete with vomiting! That was a first.

Still no sign of the

, so technically I'm a day late and this morning's temp was 98.2 which is the highest it's ever been without me being sick. FI talked me into peeing on a stick before he left for work. BFN, which I expected. If those cramps were implantation cramps, then chances are there isn't enough HcG to show up yet.

I'm trying hard not to get too excited, but this cycle is feeling really promising!

http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/26ef23

kruff79 · #13 May 13th, 2009, 07:46 AM

Give it a couple more days and test again. your temps look good though.

Coley · #14 May 13th, 2009, 08:32 AM

Yay!! Good temps!!

FF says my Test Date is the 22nd... I doubt I'll hold out that long!! LOL!

dapgal · #15 May 13th, 2009, 10:39 AM

Your temps look awesome!! They almost look triphasic to me. I don't think the cramps I was getting was implantation since it was after I got my BFP but there is always a chance that is what it going on. Give it a few more days and test again. What kind of test did you use? I have heard that blue dye tests are less accurate than red but I am not sure how true that is. One of my friends was 5 days late before she got a BFP. I am excited to find out. I hope you get a BFP soon.

Coley · #16 May 13th, 2009, 08:38 PM

I used a FRER. But I know many women don't get a BFP at 9 or 10 days, sometimes that's too early.

I'm not really sure what to attribute the cramping to. I haven't had any today. The nausea got pretty bad again, although I didn't actually get "sick".

Still no sign of AF... tomorrow is another hopeful day!!

alicenwonderland · #17 May 13th, 2009, 11:48 PM

Chart still looking good! Good luck!

Coley · #18 May 14th, 2009, 05:08 AM

Another day... still no AF!! Temp this morning was 98.0

FF says Possible Triphasic on Day 24. Kinda sorta think I understand what it's talking about...

kruff79 · #19 May 14th, 2009, 06:42 AM

A triphasic chart is one where you see the temp jump indicating O, and another temp jump for implantation. Of course that can only be proven after you get a BFP. I would think you should be able to get a true answer by Sun. KUP!

Coley · #20 May 14th, 2009, 07:17 AM

Ahhh... maybe that explains why my FF Early Pregnancy Signs went up a fair bit, because that Triphasic message wasn't on there yesterday. Right now, the Early Pregnancy Signs have me at 96 pts!! I'm trying not to read into that too much... although it's hard!! LOL!

So basically, it could signify implantation... but, of course, it's not definite. Hmm... wonder how often Triphasic patterns do not result in BFP.

(Coley points and shouts) "To the internet!!!"