I'm sooooo flippin' frustrated!

#1 June 26th, 2009, 06:52 AM

Am I EVER going to ovulate??? EVER?? And my stupid chart is just stupid. Why are my temps so high? Seeing that is probably making it even worse! Because then I sit here and wonder if my body is just too screwed up to ovulate? Will I see it coming when it does happen?

Dh asked me this morning, "are you pregnant yet?" Umm... NO! apparently I don't even ovulate!
Grrrr....

dapgal · #2 June 26th, 2009, 08:02 AM

Are you stressing out too much over this? It looks like your body was gearing up to ovulate and then didn't. Maybe your body is still trying to regulate after having a baby?

Arya · #3 June 26th, 2009, 09:13 AM

I know what you mean! I'm on day 30 of my cycle and still didn't ovulate! It's beyond frustrating but all you can do is KEEP CALM! Don't stress out too much about it. That probably won't help.

#4 June 26th, 2009, 09:13 AM

I don't know WHAT my body is doing! lol I do tend to ovulate late in my cycle, though, so I shouldn't be surprised.. I think my frustration is coming from the fact that I *thought* it was coming.. and it didn't. I wasn't frustrated before that, kwim? THAT, and the fact that my temps are up and *around* my usual POST-o temps. But I don't think it's actually happened yet. So then I wonder: will I know when it does?

I don't think O was put off by me stressing, more likely the flu that we are running though in my house. And IF O does come, well, it's hard to want to bd when you feel like crap and can't stop coughing...

Daniela, why all the open circles on your chart? And all that ewcm! :O Oh my. You must be always wondering if O is coming with all that fertile cm! lol

I figure, IF I am going to ovulate this cycle, it will be within the next 8 days, just becuase that will bring me to cd 30, and that is the latest I have O'd yet.. I can't imagine being ON cd30 with nothing in sight! This is your first cycle charting, right? So you don't know waht to expect?

Arya · #5 June 26th, 2009, 09:33 AM

Well, I think all the EWCM before is wrong because I had no idea what to look for. It was very stretchy but it was not clear, it was creamy! So I thought hey, maybe that's it! haha It turns out not, because finally couple of days ago I got the real EWCM, and now I know what it looks like! I have it today too. And yesterday I was feeling some cramping in my left side so I'm thinking maybe I ovulated last yesterday. I was on my way to US too and as soon as I got here DF and I got to BDing just in case hehehe Well, we'll see what happens. But my cycles are usually very long, because I was diagnosed with PCOS long time ago. I haven't checked my hormones lately so I'm not sure hwo I'm doing on that front. That would explain long cycles and lack of ovulation. I just hope that I did ovulate yesterday. Oh, the open circles are the temps that are not taken at the same time as closed circles. I've been waking up at weird hours of the night, and I had to take my temp when I wake up. Hopefully it won't make too much difference!

#6 June 26th, 2009, 10:46 AM

Well, I hope this is IT for you Daniela!

I'll watch your chart. At least know that you're not the only frustrated one.. I can totally relate!

I think I've decided to stop temping until this cough I have is entirely gone. It is disrupting my sleep and who knows? Maybe that's why my temps are stupid. lol I'll still use the opks and keep track of cm and all, just think I'll leave the thermometer alone for a bit. Maybe that'll help disolve some frustration?

Arya · #7 June 26th, 2009, 11:30 AM

Thanks

And I think you're right, if you have a cold it's probably better to take a little break until it clears

Admin-pattyandthemoos · #8 June 26th, 2009, 01:48 PM

Am I looking at the right chart? Your chart shows you ovulated on cycle day 14 for me. I clicked on your sig. If it weren't for the negative opks I would say you o'd.

#9 June 26th, 2009, 01:55 PM

Yeah, right chart.

Don't ask. lol This is part of my frustration.. not knowing which setting to put my interpretations on. I had/have it on "temps only".. which gives me what you see, an O day of cd14 or whatever it is.

But does that actually look accurate??? I mean.. why am I still having so much cm? Especially those days of EWcm?! I just.. I just don't know. I'm not sure I believe that O day, but the other day I asked for opinions and no one answered, so I am left just wondering and doubting!

Admin-pattyandthemoos · #10 June 26th, 2009, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by morebluethanpink

Yeah, right chart.

Don't ask. lol This is part of my frustration.. not knowing which setting to put my interpretations on. I had/have it on "temps only".. which gives me what you see, an O day of cd14 or whatever it is.

But does that actually look accurate??? I mean.. why am I still having so much cm? Especially those days of EWcm?! I just.. I just don't know. I'm not sure I believe that O day, but the other day I asked for opinions and no one answered, so I am left just wondering and doubting!

I am so sorry I must have missed that post. I try real hard to respond to every post but the last week has been crazy for me.

Well the CM would indicate you were likely still fertile but some gals have ewcm patches after they ovulate. It doesn't necessarily mean you haven't ovulated. It's possible you missed your LH surge somehow. You also missed a few temps. I don't know I tend to think you ovulated. Your temps are pretty high for preo temps. I looked at your other charts and your temps seem consistent with your post o temps on your other charts.

If it were me I would consider myself still fertile until the ewcm disappears and continue bding but I think you might have o'd. I guess you will have to wait it out and see what happens.

I am going to see if I can get Shawna to take a look. She is the charting queen!

ShawnaCAN · #11 June 26th, 2009, 02:14 PM

I'm not sure I understand what the confusion is about, as your last chart didn't confirm ovulation until CD27. So it wouldn't be totally unreasonable to anticipate that ovulation will be a bit later this time too.

Whenever temps and CM don't agree, mucus already trumps temps. The alleged thermal shift that gives you an O date of CD14 isn't very strong anyway, so it should definitely not be relied on.

It's normal to have some CM after ovulation, but it shouldn't be as wet or slippery as before O. If you are still noticing lots of wet or slippery mucus, then you would still consider yourself in the pre-ovulatory phase of your cycle.

Also, I can't remember your history - but have you discontinued a hormonal contraceptive within the last year?

#12 June 26th, 2009, 02:22 PM

I hope your week settles down, Patty. and thanks for the insight.

Shawna, the confusion is that my temps are more around my usual post-o range, yet I am not convinced that O has actually occured. And yet, they're up there, where they shouldn't be. lol

No, no b/c. But I did have a baby 5 months ago.

Admin-pattyandthemoos · #13 June 26th, 2009, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ShawnaCAN

I'm not sure I understand what the confusion is about, as your last chart didn't confirm ovulation until CD27. So it wouldn't be totally unreasonable to anticipate that ovulation will be a bit later this time too.

Whenever temps and CM don't agree, mucus already trumps temps. The alleged thermal shift that gives you an O date of CD14 isn't very strong anyway, so it should definitely not be relied on.

It's normal to have some CM after ovulation, but it shouldn't be as wet or slippery as before O. If you are still noticing lots of wet or slippery mucus, then you would still consider yourself in the pre-ovulatory phase of your cycle.

Also, I can't remember your history - but have you discontinued a hormonal contraceptive within the last year?

What do you make of the higher temps? I know they aren't that high but my post o temps don't get much higher than that and they seem pretty consistent with her post o temps. I think you are probably right though. Between the negative opks and the fertile CM she probably hasn't actually o'd but I can see a shift on her chart.

I appreciate your insight.

ShawnaCAN · #14 June 26th, 2009, 02:35 PM

Temps can be lower after you have a baby, especially during the first 3-6 months post partum. It's because your thyroid function can be a little sluggish after having a baby (it's normal and usually recovers on it's own!) Then as thyroid function improves, the overall level of the temps starts to rise too.

That's why every cycle is treated as unique - especially post partum. Temp patterns from last cycle have no bearings on temp patterns for the current cycle.

There is a weak shift showing up, but without the CM confirmation of ovulation - I wouldn't trust it alone. If the CM confirmed ovulation, then we could put more stock in that temp pattern.

Admin-pattyandthemoos · #15 June 26th, 2009, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ShawnaCAN

Temps can be lower after you have a baby, especially during the first 3-6 months post partum. It's because your thyroid function can be a little sluggish after having a baby (it's normal and usually recovers on it's own!) Then as thyroid function improves, the overall level of the temps starts to rise too.

That's why every cycle is treated as unique - especially post partum. Temp patterns from last cycle have no bearings on temp patterns for the current cycle.

There is a weak shift showing up, but without the CM confirmation of ovulation - I wouldn't trust it alone. If the CM confirmed ovulation, then we could put more stock in that temp pattern.

Gotcha!