Positive OPK's but FF says I already O'd!!!

LadyFlyAway · #1 July 6th, 2009, 04:14 AM

Is this a Positive OPK? I just wanted to make sure because it looks positive to me, and it's how my OPK from yesterday (although yesterday's was darker) and the day before yesterday looked. Today when I put in my temp from this morning, FF said I O'd! How could I have O'd and then gotten positive OPK's after the fact? When I got the + OPK's I thought that they were off somehow because my CM changed and my cervix dropped and became hard. But, it's an OPK, so I couldn't argue with it...but, this new development makes me wonder if the OPK's are not right for me. My Cervix is very low and my CM is definetly drying up and not fertile, but I have a + OPK and now FF says I already O'd. This is so stressful...I think I may just stop all this charting and temping and OPK's! HELP PLEASE!

6:45AM OPK

11:30AM OPK

tchelle · #2 July 6th, 2009, 04:17 AM

Looks positive to me.

Admin-pattyandthemoos · #3 July 6th, 2009, 07:44 AM

Here is a little info on how opks work. During your cycle you produce a hormone called LH. It is pretty much always in your system but right before you ovulate there will be a big surge of it. You will get a positive opk when your LH surges but your opks may stay positive for a day or so after the surge just because it takes time for it to get out of your system. So I think even though this is positive, you also had a positive on Saturday and Sunday. I would go with your first positive because that is when the surge probably started.

I think you probably ovulated on Sunday but you will have to see what happens with your temps to confirm. I think it is unlikely that you o'd on Friday because you just had your positive ovulation test on the same day and your temp did not stay up. Try changing your charting method to the Fertility Awareness Method. FF sometimes marks your o date wrong and I think the FAM is more accurate. To change it to the FAM go to Analysis>> then Tuning overide and choose FAM.

LadyFlyAway · #4 July 6th, 2009, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by pattyandthemoos

Here is a little info on how opks work. During your cycle you produce a hormone called LH. It is pretty much always in your system but right before you ovulate there will be a big surge of it. You will get a positive opk when your LH surges but your opks may stay positive for a day or so after the surge just because it takes time for it to get out of your system. So I think even though this is positive, you also had a positive on Saturday and Sunday. I would go with your first positive because that is when the surge probably started.

I think you probably ovulated on Sunday but you will have to see what happens with your temps to confirm. I think it is unlikely that you o'd on Friday because you just had your positive ovulation test on the same day and your temp did not stay up. Try changing your charting method to the Fertility Awareness Method. FF sometimes marks your o date wrong and I think the FAM is more accurate. To change it to the FAM go to Analysis>> then Tuning overide and choose FAM.

By the way my cervix and CM is now, I just can't believe I am fertile now...I just can't. I think you are right...I think that I O'd somewhere between Friday and Sunday and that my body still has some LH which is showing up on the OPK's now. I guess my temps will either prove or not prove that in a few days. I'll try changing to FAM...I'm not sure what the difference is though.

I did what you suggested and it took away the lines and says I didn't O. Can you explain why and what the difference is between FAM and the Advanced (recommended) settings?

Admin-pattyandthemoos · #5 July 6th, 2009, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Kody.G

By the way my cervix and CM is now, I just can't believe I am fertile now...I just can't. I think you are right...I think that I O'd somewhere between Friday and Sunday and that my body still has some LH which is showing up on the OPK's now. I guess my temps will either prove or not prove that in a few days. I'll try changing to FAM...I'm not sure what the difference is though.

The fertility awareness method uses different rules for drawing your coverline and marking your o date. FF uses their own research for predicting this. The FAM uses the 3 over six method to predict your ovulation day which means you have to see three temps that are higher than your previous six temperatures to confirm ovulation. Here is a link. Fertility Awareness Method (FAM)

I prefer this method. You see your temp on Saturday went up but then went right back down. What you want to see is three temps that are higher than your previous six temps. I hope I explained that okay.

LadyFlyAway · #6 July 6th, 2009, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by pattyandthemoos

The fertility awareness method uses different rules for drawing your coverline and marking your o date. FF uses their own research for predicting this. The FAM uses the 3 over six method to predict your ovulation day which means you have to see three temps that are higher than your previous six temperatures to confirm ovulation. Here is a link. Fertility Awareness Method (FAM)

I prefer this method. You see your temp on Saturday went up but then went right back down. What you want to see is three temps that are higher than your previous six temps. I hope I explained that okay.

Oh..I see. Yes, you explained it just fine. I think, regardless of when I O'd that I'm out this month too. I think that my chances are low because I most likely O'd Friday-Sunday. I BD'd on Wed and if I O'd between those days, the sperm wouldn't have been alive. If I O'd Sunday, although I did BD, it was probably too late.

Admin-pattyandthemoos · #7 July 6th, 2009, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Kody.G

Oh..I see. Yes, you explained it just fine. I think, regardless of when I O'd that I'm out this month too. I think that my chances are low because I most likely O'd Friday-Sunday. I BD'd on Wed and if I O'd between those days, the sperm wouldn't have been alive. If I O'd Sunday, although I did BD, it was probably too late.

NO Sunday was perfect timing!! I think you timed things perfectly. Honestly. I mean it would be better to have had more bding but bding on your o date is exactly the most perfect time. I think you have a very good shot at things!

LadyFlyAway · #8 July 6th, 2009, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by pattyandthemoos

NO Sunday was perfect timing!! I think you timed things perfectly. Honestly. I mean it would be better to have had more bding but bding on your o date is exactly the most perfect time. I think you have a very good shot at things!

Well, we will see I guess. I took another OPK and it has an even darker line than this morning. Sunday and Monday have been my darkest OPK days thus far. Saturday was dark but not darker than the control line. Sunday and Monday the test line has been way darker than the control line! One thing that sticks in my mind though is that my Cervix is fluctuating between medium and low and my CM is not, at all, EWCM or even creamy. It doesn't match up to what I am used to for fertile signs. Saturday is when my creamy CM and high cervix started to change to lower and sticky and that's when I got my 1st positive OPK...it's odd.

LadyFlyAway · #9 July 6th, 2009, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by pattyandthemoos

So I think even though this is positive, you also had a positive on Saturday and Sunday. I would go with your first positive because that is when the surge probably started.

I think you probably ovulated on Sunday but you will have to see what happens with your temps to confirm. I think it is unlikely that you o'd on Friday because you just had your positive ovulation test on the same day and your temp did not stay up.

I have been thinking back to my Saturday OPK. Although the lines were both dark ( they were the same color), could it have been a negative? Looking at the test from yesterday and the two tests today...the test line was darker than the control line. I'm wondering if my Sat test was a negative and not a positive now.

alicenwonderland · #10 July 6th, 2009, 10:21 AM

It looks positive to me... but i trust fertility signs more than opks. I usually o 2-3 days after my first positive, and they stay positive for a couple days. I would keep bding just to cover myself. You never no when fertile signs may return.

LadyFlyAway · #11 July 6th, 2009, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by alicenwonderland

It looks positive to me... but i trust fertility signs more than opks. I usually o 2-3 days after my first positive, and they stay positive for a couple days. I would keep bding just to cover myself. You never no when fertile signs may return.

Although I have two positive OPK's, my CM is barely there. I'm not totally dry, but not far away from it. I can't stretch anything either. My nipples hurt like they do before and after O, so it's either about to happen or already has. Guess my temp tomorrow will tell more.

tchelle · #12 July 6th, 2009, 12:36 PM

I'm almost wondering if maybe you'll O tomorrow. I know it's different for everyone, but I typically O on the last +OPK (generally have one or two + before I O & the last one is the most +/darkest). Your second OPK from today looks way more + than the first one.

I'd try to BD tonight anyway just to cover things.

LadyFlyAway · #13 July 6th, 2009, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by tchelle

I'm almost wondering if maybe you'll O tomorrow. I know it's different for everyone, but I typically O on the last +OPK (generally have one or two + before I O & the last one is the most +/darkest). Your second OPK from today looks way more + than the first one.

I'd try to BD tonight anyway just to cover things.

Is it normal to have almost no CM right before O though? Normally I have so much, and I have barely any now.

tchelle · #14 July 6th, 2009, 01:10 PM

I know almost for a fact that I'm Oing today (big temp drop, +OPK's, +ferning). I had a tiny bit of EWCM on Thurs, then I had slightly watery CM, but not much of it for 3 days (would have marked dry, but I got some watery when I was checking my cervix). And most of today, I didn't have much CM , but I went to the bathroom about noon and had a HUGE gob of EWCM (sorry if that's TMI).

When I have my EWCM, usually, on that day, I don't have much, then I'll have one, maybe two times that I'll go to the bathroom and get the EWCM. But the rest of the time I'm pretty dry.

But having said that, it's different for everyone. It will be interesting to see what your temp does tomorrow.

Alchemist · #15 July 7th, 2009, 06:05 AM

i personally think you O'd either the 6th or 7th

Admin-pattyandthemoos · #16 July 7th, 2009, 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Kody.G

Although I have two positive OPK's, my CM is barely there. I'm not totally dry, but not far away from it. I can't stretch anything either. My nipples hurt like they do before and after O, so it's either about to happen or already has. Guess my temp tomorrow will tell more.

Oh look at that wonderful temp spike! I would say you o'd yesterday. My cm usually dries up a day or two before I ovulate. When I first started charting it used to confuse me because all the books say you have the most fertile CM up until you ovulate and then it dries up. But, for me my fertile CM tends to show up three or four days before I ovulate and by the time I ovulate I am pretty dry. I think you have to pay attention to your own body's patterns.

LadyFlyAway · #17 July 7th, 2009, 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by pattyandthemoos

Oh look at that wonderful temp spike! I would say you o'd yesterday. My cm usually dries up a day or two before I ovulate. When I first started charting it used to confuse me because all the books say you have the most fertile CM up until you ovulate and then it dries up. But, for me my fertile CM tends to show up three or four days before I ovulate and by the time I ovulate I am pretty dry. I think you have to pay attention to your own body's patterns.

My temp really spiked didn't it! I was so happy to see that this morning! I'm praying it stays up! I definetly had some fertile CM a few days before my possible O and I have been reading that sometimes the O signs, temps and cm, just don't collaborate...yet that doesn't mean I didn't O when my temps said I did. I'm going to stick with my temps as my O time and not my CM.