[jewelsgurl23]

hi

im definately out this month.

im only 12 dpo but my temp went down to my coverline this morning.

i don't have any spotting or anything yet and my boobs still don't hurt at all.

only 2 more days till AF comes.

just waiting on her now.

ladies im getting very tired of trying. i don't know what else to do anymore.

this will be cycle 20 coming up.

maybe i will get lucky in the next 4 months.

this month would be 2 years off birth control .

any suggestions or tips that might help.

tried the opks and they were hard to read and hubby didn't want me to get them since he wants to do it naturally.

he has a low sperm count also but has gotten 2 women preggo before way before he met me.

one ended up in a misscarriage other an ectopic pregnancy.

so i guess he can knock someone up just not me.

here is my chart:

277b11 Ovulation Charts

we have stopped trying in the past and just had sex when we wanted and that didn't even work as you can see.

thanks ladies for all your help and baby dust to you all.

[slpliz]

I'm sorry about the temperature drop and about your TTC frustrations. I understand. It took us 17 cycles to conceive my son and even then, we did it with medical assistance (clomid + IUI) because my husband had a varicocele (which has since been surgically corrected) and a resulting HORRIBLY low sperm count (seriously, it was really really bad!). I realize your husband wants to do things naturally but when you know that there is a problem, using things like OPKs and charting can help to maximize your chances each month. I was most comfortable when we finally started with an RE after a year of TTC. At least I felt like I was getting help - it gave me a sense of control back and I hate being out of control. I think you should talk to DH about your frustrations and explain how hard the TTC process is on you and see if he'll consider seeing a doctor with you or at least using OPKs (and have you ever tried Pre-Seed?).

[Admin-pattyandthemoos]

Originally Posted by slpliz

I'm sorry about the temperature drop and about your TTC frustrations. I understand. It took us 17 cycles to conceive my son and even then, we did it with medical assistance (clomid + IUI) because my husband had a varicocele (which has since been surgically corrected) and a resulting HORRIBLY low sperm count (seriously, it was really really bad!). I realize your husband wants to do things naturally but when you know that there is a problem, using things like OPKs and charting can help to maximize your chances each month. I was most comfortable when we finally started with an RE after a year of TTC. At least I felt like I was getting help - it gave me a sense of control back and I hate being out of control. I think you should talk to DH about your frustrations and explain how hard the TTC process is on you and see if he'll consider seeing a doctor with you or at least using OPKs (and have you ever tried Pre-Seed?).

I agree with this advice. If you have been ttc for two years it is time to get a doctor to help. (I know that I am not doing this myself but I have four kids so I feel like my circumstances are different.)

But, I did want to mention a suggestion you might want to try. If your partner has low sperm this product might be something you want to try. http://www.conceptionkit.com/

Some other things your doc could try is IUI which helps to get the sperm up inside your uterus. I think it is an option a lot of couples try before going to IVF. You should stop over to the TTC with Medical Advice and see if the gals over there have any advice too.

[sweatshirtgirl]

I'm so sorry. Your chart doesn't look the best, but I was just looking thru the gallery on FF and was seeing a lot of charts that had temps dip near cover like that (not IDs) and they ended up being pregnant. So while it doesn't look like the most promising chart, it still could be possible. Like everyone says, you never know for SURE to AF shows up.

Here are the charts I was browsing.

Fertility Friend OnLine Chart Gallery

But if it's not this month for you, I would definitely look into seeing a doctor. I'm headed there if it doesn't happen by September for us. It could be something pretty simple that's wrong, you never know.

[Coley]

with everything that's been said so far. I'm sorry about the temp drop... but it ain't over til the flies in.

Also, I see you don't have your bd'ing showing on your chart... but if you know DH has a low sperm count... is it possible you are bd'ing too frequently? Perhaps if you let a day or so go by in between bd sessions you'd have better results, as that allows the sperm a chance to rebuild and restrengthen. I read about that in What To Expect Before You're Expecting. Just a thought.